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To: DiogenesLamp
Again, no one died at Ft. Sumter. There was no blood shed by the confederate forces. The first blood shed of the war was when Union forces tried to invade Virginia.

The fact that nobody died is a testimony more to the stoutness of the fort and the terrible artillerymen of the Confederacy than to any desire on their part not to kill anyone. And it was still an act of war on their part.

Following your claim, had the Union murdered every person in the South, you would say they deserved it.

Had the Allies killed everyone in Germany and Japan would you say they didn't deserve it? They, too, started wars that they were ill equipped to win.

No, this is sheer emotionalism and after the fact justification for abuse.

Abuse? If the mugger is tazed by police has he been abused? If the murder is executed has be been abused? Abuse implies innocence, and the South was not the innocent party in this. The South was the aggressor, and brought down all that happened to her all on her own.

And you think they could do such a thing for 24 hours and NOT kill anyone if they were trying?

Obviously that's what happened.

So how does it feel when YOUR SIDE is fighting for slavery while the other side is fighting against it? How do YOU like it when your side's motives are tainted with the slavery issue?

I'm fine with it because I know that what you claim is pure nonsense.

75 posted on 12/05/2014 1:24:06 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
The fact that nobody died is a testimony more to the stoutness of the fort and the terrible artillerymen of the Confederacy than to any desire on their part not to kill anyone. And it was still an act of war on their part.

This comment is made in absence of knowledge either pro or con. It is not even worth addressing.

Had the Allies killed everyone in Germany and Japan would you say they didn't deserve it? They, too, started wars that they were ill equipped to win.

The notion that we should simply kill everyone is too extreme to even consider, at least by rational men. And no, Germany was quite equipped to win. But for massive Russian sacrifice and quite a bit of good luck on top of bad blunders by the Germans, they very likely would have won.

The South was the aggressor, and brought down all that happened to her all on her own.

The South slapped the Union in the face. The union responded with invasion and murder.

Obviously that's what happened.

No, it isn't obvious. That is the problem with you. You think everything is obvious because you have a specific desired understanding of the events. You lack objectivity. You have no grasp of any larger notion than "Rah Rah Rah" for your team, who cannot be in the wrong because they are YOUR team.

I'm fine with it because I know that what you claim is pure nonsense.

Yes you do. Just as I said earlier, the problem with you is that you "know" so much that isn't so.

Fools are certain. Wise men are not. I do not see where you are worth the trouble of arguing with you. You have the dogma which you wish to believe, and regardless of any argument presented, you will go back to "Rah Rah Rah" for your team.

206 posted on 12/08/2014 7:23:47 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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