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To: DoodleDawg
Had the South not started a war with Fedzilla then her railroads wouldn't have been trashed or her slaves freed. Let that be the lesson to you.

Your argument is tantamount to someone responding to being hit by a pea-shooter with murder.

The attack on Ft. Sumter was stupid, but the Fedzilla response was by far disproportionate. No one was killed in the shelling of Ft. Sumter, and I cannot help but think this is because the Confederates really had no intention of killing anyone. Because of the zero casualties as a result of their attack, I suspect they were just trying to make a big show and scare people.

One of our founding principles is that if you're going to start a rebellion, regardless of whether the reason is "taxation without representation" or defending slavery, then you had better win it. Another lesson for you.

It is folly to think we "won" the war of Independence. Britain just decided to stop fighting us. Had Lincoln been in charge of England, we wouldn't have gained independence.

More like the Union had the better cause, preservation of the United States.

And what makes this a better cause than the preservation of the United Kingdom?

Why are slave states breaking away from the United Kingdom better than Slave states breaking away from the United States?

58 posted on 12/05/2014 11:05:18 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
The attack on Ft. Sumter was stupid, but the Fedzilla response was by far disproportionate.

Was the nuking of two cities and the burning of a bunch of others proportionate to the attack on Pearl Harbor? The South started the war. Having started it, the South alone was responsible for all the death and destruction that followed.

No one was killed in the shelling of Ft. Sumter, and I cannot help but think this is because the Confederates really had no intention of killing anyone.

You think they bombarded the fort for over 24 hours and honestly weren't trying to kill anyone? Really?

It is folly to think we "won" the war of Independence. Britain just decided to stop fighting us.

The British signed a treaty granting the U.S. pretty much everything it was fighting for. You don't call that winning?

Had Lincoln been in charge of England, we wouldn't have gained independence.

Had Lincoln been in charge of the Confederacy and Davis the Union you would be a separate country today.

And what makes this a better cause than the preservation of the United Kingdom?

Because we weren't an integral part of the United Kingdom. We were a colony.

Why are slave states breaking away from the United Kingdom better than Slave states breaking away from the United States?

The rebellion of 1776 was not in defense of slavery. The rebellion of 1861 was.

71 posted on 12/05/2014 12:19:11 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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