Posted on 12/03/2014 7:55:14 AM PST by Brother Cracker
When asked about recent allegations against Bill Cosby, Chris Rock fell into what for him is an unusual position. He was at a loss for words.
"I don't know what to say," he told New York magazine. "What do you say? I hope it's not true. That's all you can say. I really do. I grew up on Cosby. I love Cosby, and I just hope it's not true."
A lot of us longtime Cosby fans have been at a loss for words ever since long-simmering rumors boiled over in recent weeks that Cosby allegedly drugged and sexually assaulted women over many years. Bill Cosby resigns from Temple University's board of trustees Bill Cosby resigns from Temple University's board of trustees Tribune wire report
Then Rock mused: "It's a weird year for comedy. We lost Robin, we lost Joan and we kind of lost Cosby."
Yes, we have. Unlike the losses of Robin Williams and Joan Rivers, Cosby is still alive, but that's more than we can say for his comedy career or his stature as a civic role model.
The bad news for "Cos" keeps on coming.
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I’m glad that you remember Selma, Alabama in the deep South of 1966 during your youth.
Of course you then go back to trying to justify Cosby’s racism for some reason.
They aren’t telling the truth, and they aren’t lying, they are just 20 women from their mid 40s to their 70s who became hysterical and started remembering being drugged and raped by Cosby from 1965 to 2004?
That includes the two who filed police reports and the one that Cosby settled with after her bringing forth 13 more “hysterical” victims willing to testify to his method of rape?
I don’t justify Cosby’s racism. To justify it, I would have to suggest it is right. I have not done that.
But to harbor resentment and bitterness? Yeah, I could understand that.
And pretending racism “was not rampant” (post 23) when Cosby was growing up - 1937-1957 - is just stupid. When you cannot go into a public bathroom because of the color of your skin, which was true in some places when Bill Cosby was 25 and older, the racism is blatant and rampant.
I’ll wait for the courts to decide.
No one has denied that racism existed, or does exist, just the opposite, in fact the man you are defending as we discuss him as a serial rapist is seen by many as a racist, along with his wife.
You seem to have a limited view of the past, perhaps you should save it for a thread where your beloved national father figure victim is not being discussed as a likely, lifelong serial rapist.
Well, one of them has already left the courts as a victor, while you try to convince us that the other 19 are lying.
Your soul is sick ... seek help.
You need to lay off the stalking, something has happened to you and it is reflected in these strange religion based, anti-Christian stalking posts you make throughout FR.
You once again go out of your way to prove you are a prick.
Can I understand how someone who grew up as a black in the 30s, 40s and 50s would harbor resentment towards whites?
Yep. If you cannot, then you are either ignorant or too saintly to be human. But I’ve never been a Cosby fan, and there are only two principles I’m defending:
1 - There was blatant, obvious racism in the 40s and 50s and even 60s.
2 - Cosby’s accusers include women who followed him around for years, repeatedly going to his hotel room alone at night. A woman doing that has no business complaining 30 years later that she gave him sex. He wasn’t flying her around the country to discuss politics...
LOL
“It’s “Hollywood” and women “know what they are getting into”.”
And the children too right... no... they have parents pushing them to become famous no matter what and they have pervs on the other side.
Your point # 2 was definitely not true for all 20 or more accusers. It was true of at least a couple.
Cosby didn’t grow up in Selma, Alabama like you, or my town of Houston, Texas like me, and some of his accusers run all the way down to age 15 when they say they were attacked.
You seem focused on telling us how horrible America was when he was a young man, and that these women were whores and have no reason to complain about being drugged and raped years after it happened.
Interesting arguments and views of life in America.
I have little interest in Cosby. I didn’t have a TV from when I left home in 76 until the late 90s, and we ditched TV in 2004. TV has been one of the worst things that has happened to the USA.
I’ve only read one news account. In that case, the woman followed Cosby around the country for FOUR YEARS. She was a whore.
I strongly suspect Cosby is a mean, unpleasant man. Many comedians are.
I like Sinatra’s singing. Sinatra was a mean, rude, egotistical ass who had sex with hundreds if not thousands of women, paid and unpaid. I still like his singing. I accept that a great many entertainers are people I would not want to share a beer with, let alone allow in my home. I feel the same way about most Democrats. I would never allow my daughter to be alone with Bill Clinton, nor would I ever allow that SOB into my home.
I only posted on this thread in response to a post saying racism was not rampant when Cosby was growing up. I’m old enough to remember that it was.
I can remember sitting in a Selma diner with my Dad - a veteran of WW2 & Korea & a US Air Force officer - for an hour before we left...never waited on...and we were white. That was 1966. The only explanation my parents could come up with for why no one in Selma Alabama wanted our business was that my USAF Dad represented the federal government which was opposed to segregation.
We had no problems in Florida. But Selma Alabama? Yep. There was plenty of racism in the 40s & 50s. That would not excuse Cosby for drugging drinks, if he did. It would explain bitterness, and conservatives do no one any favors if we pretend racism wasn’t real and terrible at one time.
When I was a kid, I might have been 5, so it would have been around 1966 or 1967, we were in the Coral Ridge Mall in Fort Lauderdale. I remember seeing a PACKED lunch counter in a Woolworths (I think). I asked my parents why they were so busy. My mom said something like “because they are one of the last of those...” and gestured at a sign behind the counter that said “Whites only.”
That was the first and last time I ever saw anything directly Jim Crow.
Rampant.
It was a different culture. Hell, there were 3 levels of Dutchmen in the town I grew up in. The KKK was in northwest Iowa of all places, what was their beef? It wasn’t blacks. Half of the lynchings in the country WERE NOT BLACKS.
I worked in Mississippi in a dry country. Just across the border in the wet county were 3 bars. One white, one black and one Indian. I went to the white bar. Was that racism?
Hell, I am a bigot. I discriminate on behavior. I don’t care what color you skin is or what hangs or doesn’t between your legs. There are some that do but they are a minority.
When I was in Africa, my interpreter would tell me as we traveled that certain villages were his ancestors slaves.
What I am trying to point out is how much we have been influence by the media. History has been written by liberals, be aware of that.
Conservatives are not idealists, xenophobia is a real thing, it is not going to go away, never has.
SO IN MY OPIONION IS WAS NOT RAMPANT, IT WAS MANUFACTURED.
He has only read one account he says, and yet he works so hard to spread his opinion against the women and for Cosby.
Notice the date on this post and the wording,”I’ve only read one account.”?
To: ansel12
I don’t like Cosby. I never have. I’ve only read one account. In that account, the girl/woman traveled around the country and went to his hotel at night for 4 years. I don’t think there is anything credible in her story.
I have disliked Cosby since an interview he did back when “I Spy” was on TV. I never watched the Cosby Show. He did one routine in the 60s that I found funny. Other than that, I found him weird. I felt that way when I was about 10 years old, so I think a girl in her late teens ought to have noticed something, as should her parents. Who in the hell lets their ‘little girl’ travel across the country and spend time alone with an older man in his hotel, and encourages it!?!?
76 posted on 11/22/2014, 9:31:54 AM by Mr Rogers
“...yet he works so hard to spread his opinion against the women and for Cosby.”
It requires a delusional person to say my posts exonerate Cosby or are not critical of him. If you want to see my posting history, click on my name and view it. My participation on this thread came about in response to a comment that racism in the 50s and 60s was not significant.
“SO IN MY OPIONION IS WAS NOT RAMPANT, IT WAS MANUFACTURED.”
When a black man cannot enter a public restroom without violating the law, racism is rampant and obvious.
Cosby is all in your posting history.
And this is how I responded to your claim 11 days ago and it still applies.
To: Mr Rogers
**”I’ve only read one account.”**
You have only read one account of his almost 40 years (so far) of drugging and raping and violence against women and you invest all this time and energy into defending him and attacking the women?
78 posted on 11/22/2014, 9:39:01 AM by ansel12
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