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To: Tax-chick
For that matter Henry VII did not become King because he was descended from John of Gaunt; he became King because he defeated the previous King in battle.

Still, the issue of their legitimacy was a touchy subject for the Tudors. Henry VII put to death Edward Plantagenet, the Earl of Warwick, extinguishing the male Plantagenet line. Henry VIII executed Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury, another Plantagenet.

It is an interesting fact however, that could lead to plenty of speculation as to who the cuckold was back in the chain of descent.

24 posted on 12/02/2014 12:51:59 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
the issue of their legitimacy was a touchy subject for the Tudors

Yes, Owen Tudor and Queen Catherine were a very touchy subject.

There were books about this period in the children's section, either in the library in my junior high school, or in the public library when I was that age, 12 to 14. Well-researched stuff, with a real sense of the cold and misery. I wish I remembered more, titles or authors.

29 posted on 12/02/2014 2:10:32 PM PST by Tax-chick (R.I.P., Dad, 11/25/14. Thanks for the lawyers, guns, and money.)
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To: colorado tanker

His rule was established based upon his victory in battle. His enduring line was due to uniting the factions after the victory.

Tudors were Welsh that came about when Owen married the widow of Henry the fifth, a French princess. No Plantagenet blood at all on the male side. Henry Tudor, Henry the VII, received some credibility from his mother, a great-great grand daughter of Edward III.

By marrying Edward IV’s daughter, he was uniting the Yorkist side of the War of the Roses with his Lancaster heritage in an effort to end the terrible war and solidify his claim.

Dan Jones follows up his Plantagenet book with the War of the Roses and paints a picture of that bloody era.


44 posted on 12/02/2014 3:28:37 PM PST by KC Burke (Gowdy for Supreme Court)
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