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12-Year-Old With Air Gun Dies In Cleveland Police Shooting
WIBW-TV / CNN ^ | November 23, 2014 | Michael Pearson, Ronni Berke and Brad Pechanec

Posted on 11/23/2014 6:39:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

A Cleveland police officer responding to a call about a person with a gun fatally wounded a 12-year-old boy brandishing what turned out to be an air gun that looked very much like a real firearm, police said early Sunday.

The shooting Saturday afternoon came as the nation nervously awaited a grand jury decision on whether to charge the police officer who killed African-American teenager Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, in August.

The attorney for the family of the Cleveland youngster, who also was black, downplayed any possible racial connotations to the shooting.

"This is not a black and white issue. This is a right and wrong issue," attorney Tim Kucharski said.

Police were summoned to the scene outside a recreation center by a 911 caller who said someone -- possibly a juvenile -- was pointing a gun at people.

"There's a guy in there with a pistol, you know, it's probably fake, but he's like pointing it at everybody," the caller said, according to audio provided by CNN affiliate WEWS....

(Excerpt) Read more at wibw.com ...


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To: MasterGunner01

How did they approach the kid? In the days of old the cops would have actually walked up to the child and question him. It’d go something like “Son, there are reports you’re waving a gun around, don’t be scared you’re not being arrested at the moment, now do as we say, we need to search you.” Gone are the good old days. Now just about every threat perceived or real gets almost like a swat team treatment. From news accounts and footage it seems they don’t even try to use psychology, it’s just barking orders and intimidation.


61 posted on 11/24/2014 1:47:39 AM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Pointing a realistic toy gun at a cop can get you killed. Who doesn’t know that except little gansta wannabes?


62 posted on 11/24/2014 3:18:13 AM PST by jimbug
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To: SVTCobra03

One of the first things they told us when we got “in Country” was that “a six year old with a frag can kill you just as quick & dead as an NVA colonel will.”


63 posted on 11/24/2014 3:27:19 AM PST by BwanaNdege (I wonder which side they choose whe)
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To: Carl Vehse

fta .....An orange tip indicating the gun was an air gun had been removed, police said.
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BS! B-B guns are not TOY guns and do not require orange tips.

I saw numerous postings on an earlier FR thread that referred to them as toy guns. Those people apparently have never killed birds, squirrels, etc., with a B-B gun, as I have.


64 posted on 11/24/2014 3:45:13 AM PST by octex
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To: cynwoody

It is entirely possible there was more than one 911 call, with divergent reports as to what was happening.


65 posted on 11/24/2014 5:27:12 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: precisionshootist

That is the way it should be. You are entirely correct.

Don’t want to accept that responsibility and risk, don’t become a cop.


66 posted on 11/24/2014 5:28:52 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It was only in late September at a Walmart that a cop shot and killed some guy who was carrying a BB gun to the cash register to purchase it.
Cops have reached the point where they are no longer expected to think logically.

A grand jury decided not to file charges Wednesday against police officers who shot and killed 22-year-old John Crawford III inside a Beavercreek, Ohio, Wal-Mart for carrying a BB gun.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/09/24/3571699/grand-jury-wont-charge-cops-in-wal-mart-killing-even-as-video-reveals-victim-never-pointed-his-gun/


67 posted on 11/24/2014 5:30:55 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Muslim Creeping Conquest of America and Canada)
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To: matt04

If that’s what really happened.


68 posted on 11/24/2014 6:06:28 AM PST by Shimmer1 (Conservative. Because we can't all be on welfare.)
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To: luvbach1
I can remember when the weapons of choice were chains and knives.

We're seeing the wreckage of fifty years of Great Society programs...which shows conclusively that those things done with the best of intentions are potentially the most toxic.

69 posted on 11/24/2014 7:53:39 AM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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To: kelly4c
Right now, the public is teetering on the edge of supporting the cops or lumping them into the enforcers of tyranny. If the opinion flips to the dark side, then I foresee open season time on cops. The cop mentality seems to be to hit everything with a hammer, even though some other tool needs to be used. If the only tool in your tool box is a hammer, everything becomes a nail.

The bottom line is that if the cops become seen as murderers with badges, then they become targets — whether they subscribe to this aggressive “shoot first and ask questions later” form of policing or not.

Several thoughts come to mind: 1) There are a lot more victims than cops (local, state, federal) and 2) the potential victims are armed (and usually better shots). Yes, you can raid the homes of your victims and drive up a body count, but you have families and live among us. That's not a good situation for you under such conditions. These conditions are those of civil or guerrilla war. Such outcomes are not to be sought.

70 posted on 11/24/2014 8:25:47 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: GeronL

Well they shoot unarmed canines all the time and get away with it! /s


71 posted on 11/24/2014 10:23:38 AM PST by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Holding a gun is a capitol offense. Who knew?

If someone holds a gun such that they are aiming at me my loved ones I will open their head like a canoe without hesitation.

Now you know.

72 posted on 11/24/2014 10:30:17 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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