Posted on 11/05/2014 3:28:34 AM PST by BobL
Ping, and THANKS AGAIN!!!
We must remain vigilent!
That’s a nice story, but it’s a novel, right? It certainly bears little resemblance to what really happened. Cantor beat himself, and Brat had NO help from the Tea Party. The press tried to whip up the immigration angle, but that wasn’t the reason Dave Brat won.
Good post.
Crossroads (which is legendarily the place where one sells his soul) won’t like it.
Obama hit by Republican “knock-out game.”
this mid-term was not just a wave, but it was a restraining order issued by the majority against the liberals.
“Thats a nice story, but its a novel, right? It certainly bears little resemblance to what really happened. Cantor beat himself, and Brat had NO help from the Tea Party. The press tried to whip up the immigration angle, but that wasnt the reason Dave Brat won.”
Sorry but Brat had PLENTY OF HELP from the Tea Party, but it was only the local Tea Party types - the national Tea Party and all other conservative groups wrote him off (what you’re saying).
As to why Cantor lost, I simply do not buy the OUT OF TOUCH argument that you’re trying to make - for if that was the case, Pelosi, Boener, and just about every other leader in both parties would be losing left and right - as being a leader pretty much assures very little attention back home.
As to Amnesty, it really didn’t matter, AT ALL, whether that was the deciding issue, and the libs did everything they could to support your contention that it wasn’t a major issue - but NONE OF THAT MATTERED once Cantor lost. The other Republicans saw Cantor get thrown on his ass and they perceived that Amnesty is radioactive. So no Amnesty and a HUGE VICTORY yesterday.
Well-stated----it appears even Sen Mitch McConnell got the message----mentioned secure broders as a priority in his victory speech.
More than a few FReepers seemed to have given up on democracy until this morning, it seemed.
“Thats a nice story, but its a novel, right? It certainly bears little resemblance to what really happened. Cantor beat himself, and Brat had NO help from the Tea Party. The press tried to whip up the immigration angle, but that wasnt the reason Dave Brat won.”
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Sorry, you need to research this more. The defeat of Cantor and, prior to that, the RINOs in the local GOPe machinery, was done by local constitutional conservatives who tired of the RINO lies & duplicity. It was basically a well thought out uprising by local conservatives.
These LOCAL conservatives fought and took back the local GOP (along with the Uber-duplicitous Cantor’s seat) from the corrupt GOPe. We owe these Virginia patriots a lot. And we should be copying their strategy and tactics across our great nation.
“Well-stated——it appears even Sen Mitch McConnell got the message——mentioned secure broders as a priority in his victory speech.”
Nice to hear. I’ve looked at enough polling to know that Amnesty is not a big issue for Hispanics, and they are actually with us on border security. It was INSANE for the Republicans to come so close to walking off that cliff, but thankfully that is over, for now.
By the way, in Texas, Republicans don’t win elections by 20% margins without tremendous Hispanic support, as in 45% or more...this was incredible election.
Nope. I was in the middle of it. Cantor was lazy, and instead of actually campaigning during the primary, decided since he had so much money he would just out ad Dave Brat. Bad move for Cantor. Since Brat was a newcomer with no record, Cantor didn't have much to work with in his ads, so he lied about the record of Brat. The folks who paid attention to the lies in his ads were exactly the same folks who rouse themselves to vote in primaries. Every time they heard another ad by Cantor calling Brat a liberal professor who helped Tim Kaine raise taxes, the more pissed off these folks got, because it wasn't true.
Do you understand? Cantor paid for his own loss.
Yes, there were local conservatives that were early Brat supporters and some of these folks may have been to a Tea Party rally, but while Brat asked for help from the Tea Party, they sent NOT ONE PENNY!
Immigration was but one talking point that Brat used in his stump speech, but it would be quite a stretch to call it a focus of his campaign.
“Immigration was but one talking point that Brat used in his stump speech, but it would be quite a stretch to call it a focus of his campaign.”
I wasn’t there, but I have heard similar - basically that Brat was trying to not be single-issue. But the perception still held...Cantor was twisting arms for Amnesty, and he lost. Good enough for me.
If we’re going to change the country, we need to start with sealing off the border, dwindling down EBT & Food Stamps for the worthless of society, and deporting illegals by the millions back to their place of origin.
None of these will happen, so call me a pessimist, but we changed absolutely nothing with this “win”. I voted GOP, but they can still KMA.....
We do need to start though...and losing this election would still be a lot worse than winning (which is why you also voted Rep). We’ll see what they do...maybe they’ll show some gonads, now that they know that opposing Amnesty is not going to hurt them.
the election changes little - it’s now up to the elected to unite and start enacting the laws that we need.
when they seal the border that’ll help
when they stop obama that’ll help
when they repeal obamacare, that’ll help
when they CUT spending, that’ll help
until I see all this, then i remain unconvinced.
True, but we still have a chance. Had Amnesty passed, it would have been game over, without any way to ever recover. My point was that throwing out Cantor made Amnesty go away, for the time being.
Now Cruz is stronger, and so are conservatives (overall)...but I agree, they have to act, and let the country know EXACTLY WHERE the problem lies, rather than letting the Dems keep defining us.
I think the real story is that despite massive voter fraud the GOP still pulled it off. I’m amazed and very happy.
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