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I don't believe the Tea Party is winning. It has had some success, definitely, but it's in a war it cannot, by definition, win.

It's not defeatist to recognize that the GOP (and in a greater way, the RAT party) are not political parties so much as they are business organizations. They provide employment for political professionals, be they elected office holders or "consultants."

Voters, be they Tea Party or RINO, are not the clients; they do not pay the bills and are paid only lip service.

They do not need your support because, in the ultimate sense, they do not need it to " win.". On a local basis, they just need votes; they do not need your vote.

They want and need dollars, and getting it from the masses is too much work. That's why the 'money men' have disproportionate influence.

I'm old enough to remember the Establishment response to Ronald Reagan. I've spent many years fully understanding it.

The eGOP does not want or need the support of the Tea Party. They would like to have their vote, and if the threads I see are any indication, they will have it. But they don't want to do anything for it that would scare the 'money men.'

Expecting to take over the party with the vote is like expecting to take over another business, say Lowe's, by occupying a store.

What you propose to do will not get you to where you want to go.

To put it another way: when politicians talk about resolving a controversial issue they talk about getting all the 'stakeholders' together to solve the issue.

In the eyes of the eGOP, on all things party related, the Tea Party would not qualify as a stakeholder.

The GOP is a political party in the sense that Islam is a religion.

The eGOP does not want or need the support of the Tea Party. They would like to have their vote, and if the threads I see are any indication, they will have it. But they don’t want to do anything for it that would scare the ‘money men.’

Expecting to take over the party with the vote is like expecting to take over another business, say Lowe’s, by occupying a store.

You CAN influence a business by telling the manager why they’ve lost your business. You should also tell them which competitor you’ve chosen to patronize instead and leave. You should also go to the manager in the new store and tell them why you’ve left the comptitor’s shop.

This how you raise standards of performance.

Of course if you keep paying for crappy service (or voting for GOPe RINO Back Stabbers) you won’t change anything at all.

I remember the "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" and their attack on Ronald Reagan too.
They had to be DRAGGED INTO Reagan's WIN of 1980, and they couldn't stand it.
Reagan just talked over them, with his "There you go again."
But "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" are the GOP's BIGGEST PROBLEM.
It's well overdue for the "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" to receive "THE POINTY END" of their base's disgust (highly deserved disgust).
So DREAM ON, if you still think " ... the Tea Party would not qualify as a stakeholder."
The season is OPEN to TAKE OUT "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" !