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To: OneWingedShark; All

First, if we want to change things, we need the GOP....not as it is, but we need it as our vehicle.

Second, given that, we need to take over the GOP. That means not just running candidates in primaries, but taking over state, county and local GOP leadership positions.

Third, none of this is easy or will happen overnight.

I think some of you expect God to grant you a miracle where you wake up and everything is roses.

This is going to take a long time and will not be easy. They will not go away without a fight.

But, keeping a viable GOP while we replace the defective pieces is our only path to slowly turning this leviathan back to its constitutional order.

A broken GOP is what the DNC wants.
A losing GOP is what the RINOs want (to blame us).

But, if we take over the GOP (as we are slowly doing), we can restore this nation.


221 posted on 11/02/2014 3:05:25 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

Don’t try to make sense to those going over the cliff with flags flying. They think they can win by losing.


232 posted on 11/02/2014 6:38:58 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Erik Latranyi
First, if we want to change things, we need the GOP....not as it is, but we need it as our vehicle.

I don't believe that, not one bit.
Why? Because that is predicated on the people needing the party, as if the party is the greater entity.

Second, given that, we need to take over the GOP. That means not just running candidates in primaries, but taking over state, county and local GOP leadership positions.

This seems to me to be dream-like wishful thinking — Remember how Romney was pushed in `12? How there were retroactive rule-changes for primaries? How the RNC was rigged to prevent delegates from arriving/participating due to a lost bus driver who circled the convention multiple times?

Third, none of this is easy or will happen overnight.

Oh, I agree that any change is unlikely to happen overnight.

I think some of you expect God to grant you a miracle where you wake up and everything is roses.

I don't.

This is going to take a long time and will not be easy. They will not go away without a fight.

It will take less time if the GOP is treated like this by constitutants who are unsatisfied with continually being betrayed by unfaithful servants (The Republican Party).

But, keeping a viable GOP while we replace the defective pieces is our only path to slowly turning this leviathan back to its constitutional order.

I disagree, theis is all predicated on the GOP being maintained as viable when it is clear that there is no viability because the party refuses to stand for anything, unless you count things which the base is vehemently opposed (like amnesty).

A broken GOP is what the DNC wants.
A losing GOP is what the RINOs want (to blame us).

If the GOP is determined to lose, why should we make them win? If the GOP is determined to break itself by becoming ever more big tent and abandoning standing for anything how can it be prevented from breaking? — It seems to me that you are trying to prop up a wall that is falling an, indeed, has already fallen.

But, if we take over the GOP (as we are slowly doing), we can restore this nation.

I don't see how we're taking over the GOP, even slowly.

238 posted on 11/02/2014 6:57:40 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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