Posted on 10/23/2014 5:49:46 AM PDT by C19fan
Loyola University Chicago recently christened a new pagan student club, with its student organizer saying the group aims to help pupils at the private Catholic college find the God they seek, not just the one featured in the Bible.
“Loyola’s mission states that ‘seeking God in all things’ is one of the main tenants of the university,” said the group’s student president, Jill Kreider, in an email to The College Fix. “While the mission primarily focuses on the Abrahamic God, there is no reason a Pagan student (or a Hindu, Baha’i or Sikh student) cannot seek using his or her own faith, regardless of which god they are doing it for.”
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“seeking God in all things” is an early heresy. Can someone with more knowledge of Church history name it? I’m thinking pantheism but I think that there is another name for it.
You can always find the god that you're seeking for.
As long as it has some free-spirited, hot goth chicks, I don’t see a problem here.
There’s nothing new under the sun.
Catholicism has incorporated a lot of paganism into it since its beginning. That’s why there’s syncretism in so many third world countries.
Not to mention that those within the Catholic church themselves ADMIT they’re incorporated paganism.
When they say “Seeking God in all things,” I’m inclined to think they mean the God of Abraham. If not, then why not choose an idol? Or satan himself? Would the university support a Black Arts club that was seeking god in the Prince of Lies?
Dilute the meaning of “God” far enough and you become an animist.
Pantheism is not seeking God in all things.
Yeah, it's wiki, but this gives a decent summary of what pantheism is.
This is no Longer a Catholic University.
Until the Catholic church makes that formal and binding, then, sadly it is, opinion of the laity to the contrary.
In a similar way, "Seeking God in all things" is just the kind of short, pithy phrase (like "God is love") which lends itself to both orthodox and heterodox interpretations.
If you think God is simply"in" all things but is not absolutely transcendent, that is panentheism. The word you were perhaps looking for. It is a heresy because it does not distinguish between God (who is the eternal and infinite Creator) and His time-bound, space-bound creations.
But there is an orthodox sense of the word, which means that God is omni-present. He can be found in, and far surpassing, everything He has willed into existence.
Meanwhile, shame on "Catholic" institutions --- worldly institutions still living off the bequests of devout alumni and the fumes of Catholicism ---which showcase error rather than refute it.
Panentheism is not, particularly, a heresy. The problem with these pagans “seeking God in all things” is that they really mean, “seeking God in all things except divine revelation,” which is certainly nonsensical.
Panentheistic sentiments can be found throughout Orthodox, Catholic, and even mainline Protestant theology, where the omnipresence of God is celebrated (e.g., “How Great Thou Art”).
And the incorporation of paganism continues.
Has the Catholic Church demanded they remove the name? Have they denounced or renounced? If not, they have condoned and accepted.
“Meanwhile, shame on “Catholic” institutions -— worldly institutions still living off the bequests of devout alumni and the fumes of Catholicism -—which showcase error rather than refute it.”
Until the church of Rome comes out and severs ties with institutions like this, these institutions are Catholic and are the public face of Catholicism (apart from the pr disaster the priest thing was).
Yet, it doesn’t happen. At this point, it would appear that they do not care enough yet in Rome to do anything - or they’re OK with it.
Frankly, as a non-roman-Christian, I wish for your group that they would. Same with the liberal nun-groups in the news. Same with the gay aspects.
As for the Pagans: this whole project looks like obeisance to the Dictatorship of Relativism.
Meanwhile, 23 years later --- the mills of the Church grind slowly --- Pope John Paul II issued an Apostolic Constitution called "Ex Corde Ecclesiae" which set up certain standards for Catholic colleges and Universities, and charged the local bishops, basically, with enforcement.
Most bishops put it in the big file cabinet that stands alongside the "Priorities 1-50" file cabinet, which reads "Priorities 50 - Infinity."
The problem is disobedient bishops who don't hold themselves bound by either authoritative Constitutions nor Canon Law.
“The problem is disobedient bishops who don’t hold themselves bound by either authoritative Constitutions nor Canon Law. “
It appears you have a boatload of leaders who are “poorly catechized” - or “want to live in sin” - or find catholicism “too hard.”
So it appears.
“The problem is disobedient bishops who don’t hold themselves bound by either authoritative Constitutions nor Canon Law. “
On the bright side, instead of multiple catholic denomination created by separating from those in sin, you can claim just one!
:-)
You’ve identified one of the major reasons why Protestant denominations are many. They separate from liberalism, low views of inspiration and sin.
[Admittedly, they also historically separated from others based on stupid reasons at times. I remember hearing of a church that divided once over women wearing pants. Yet, if they prefer to organize around a non-essential, but get the core of the faith correct, I wish them well. It is simply a “protestant rite.”]
-— It appears you have a boatload of leaders who are “poorly catechized” - or “want to live in sin” - or find catholicism “too hard.” -—
Bishops aren’t impeccable. See Judas.
The Church doesn’t teach that bishops are impeccable, but many anti-Catholics do, because it’s an easy straw man to knock down.
Bishops have been arguing since the Council of Jerusalem. At Nicea, St. Nicholas (yes, that one) punched Arias in the face.
Despite this, The Church has never promulgated a false dogma, giving evidence of the protection of the Holy Spirit.
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