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I would never argue in favor of socialism, and I would state too, that Jesus never argued in favor of socialism, either. But he did show that we must help the Samaritan, and should do this of our own free will.

What does this say about the free will choices of those that turn away Samaritans - be they even Samaritans in Africa?

There is nothing keeping owners and shareholders from taking the pro-Samaritan approach.

Where have I ever said that this should be forced? Nowhere. But lack of action by some in helping those who cannot help themselves would be quite telling.

And thus, this post and my others now show exactly where I stand and thus, further, nothing more needs to be said...

I follow what Jesus said, do not support Socialism, support both of Adam Smith’s works, and call upon all (of their own free will, be they shareholders or owners) to do the right thing and of their own free will take a pro-Samaritan approach in some cases -— like this.


72 posted on 10/16/2014 10:57:44 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
But lack of action by some in helping those who cannot help themselves would be quite telling.

First, it has been said that companies are working on a cure. So there is no lack of action.

Second, you assume that there is a cure. Cures for viral infections are notoriously hard to come by, IIRC.

Third, you are promoting that the company use the resources entrusted to it by its shareholders to speculate, to its shareholders detriment, on a cure that may or may not exist.

Finally, you really should change your screen name.

76 posted on 10/16/2014 11:07:16 AM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Ummmmmmm. You’re taking an example of God (the Holiest man alive) helping one person on the side of the road out of the Bible. Then you are applying it multiple countries. One country is rich, the rest are dirt poor. All of these countries have millions of people, with millions of different interests, minds, and motivations. Then you are saying that the country that is rich should give away hundreds of thousands of hours of hard labor, sleepless nights, and stress. Not to mention the monetary cost, and the consequences to all those workers families. Which could include homelessness, starvation, illness, and death. Then saying they are morally obligated to do this all without compensation, because Jesus (Holiest man alive) helped a person on the side of the road.

In a nutshell, you are taking a Bible passage that teaches you to help others when you can out of the Bible cherry picked by your little communist fingers. Then telling us we are morally obligated to shift millions of dollars to people half a world away. In doing so would raise the tax rates, which would lower the quality of living, and hurt more Americans than it would help Africans.

You are advocating what I will call GLOBAL SOCIALISM. Which in my opinion is evil. Do you not understand that what you are asking would cost this company millions of dollars? Which gets passed on to their employees in the form of lower wages, lay offs, and cuts in benefits? Which is ultimately passed onto other companies because these employees no longer spend as much as they did? It then leads to that company to make up for profit loss selling their medicines at a higher rate, affecting EVERYONE else that needs their products to survive.

If you are not going to even TRY to listen to the argument, you are on the wrong forums. Try www.dailykos.com. You will find many like minded individuals there. Here you will find constant rebuttals, flames, and eventually a zot.


80 posted on 10/16/2014 11:20:23 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

This isn’t one on one helping someone. This would hurt many people, and not at the rich CEO’s and stockholders expense. But the consumers expense. Tell me how that is fair? What if this company sells chemotherapy medication. What if I have stage 2 cancer and am depending on my treatment to live a full life? The CEO’s and stockholders decide they are going to spend millions and millions to help west Africa. Guess what happens? My chemo medicine COSTS MORE! What if it gets so bad, that the morons in government intervene, and start TAKING MORE taxes out of my income? Wow. I’m just one person, now I get to choose between death by starvation because I can’t afford to feed myself, or death by cancer, because I can’t afford treatment! You’re ridiculous and I am done talking to you. You are a socialist, and you do not belong here.


86 posted on 10/16/2014 11:40:00 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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