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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

From the CDC/ Ebola website:

“Persons with percutaneous or mucocutaneous exposures to blood, body fluids, secretions, or excretions from a patient with suspected EVD should
Stop working and immediately wash the affected skin surfaces with soap and water. Mucous membranes (e.g., conjunctiva) should be irrigated with copious amounts of water or eyewash solution.”

You and that young student nurse are using more sanitary procedures than the CDC recommends.

And this I learned from a commenter on The Daily Beast ( go to see how the other side thinks)

“...you will see that CDC does recommend N95 respirators for clinical situations where there will be aerosolization such as intubation or suctioning. Mr. Duncan was both intubated and received kidney dialysis, both procedures where the risk of blood or bloody body fluids being aerosolized is high. “

This is the case for using respirators and not simply masks ( I put this on another thread).

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/09/commentary-health-workers-need-optimal-respiratory-protection-ebola

“The precautionary principle—that any action designed to reduce risk should not await scientific certainty—compels the use of respiratory protection for a pathogen like Ebola virus that has:

No proven pre- or post-exposure treatment modalities
A high case-fatality rate

Unclear modes of transmission

We believe there is scientific and epidemiologic evidence that Ebola virus has the potential to be transmitted via infectious aerosol particles both near and at a distance from infected patients, which means that healthcare workers should be wearing respirators, not facemasks.1

The minimum level of protection in high-risk settings should be a respirator with an assigned protection factor greater than 10. A powered air-purifying respirator (PAPR) with a hood or helmet offers many advantages over an N95 filtering facepiece or similar respirator, being more protective, comfortable, and cost-effective in the long run...

The potential for transmission via inhalation of aerosols, therefore, cannot be ruled out by the observed risk factors or our knowledge of the infection process. Many body fluids, such as vomit, diarrhea, blood, and saliva, are capable of creating inhalable aerosol particles in the immediate vicinity of an infected person. Cough was identified among some cases in a 1995 outbreak in Kikwit, Democratic Republic of the Congo,11 and coughs are known to emit viruses in respirable particles.17 The act of vomiting produces an aerosol and has been implicated in airborne transmission of gastrointestinal viruses.18,19 Regarding diarrhea, even when contained by toilets, toilet flushing emits a pathogen-laden aerosol that disperses in the air.2”


73 posted on 10/12/2014 10:24:42 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: lulu16; Smokin' Joe; All

Judge Jeanine says (on tonight’s show) we cannot trust the pResident or CDC on 0bola *facts*....that NOW is the time to take charge...

http://therightscoop.com/start-worrying-judge-jeanine-tells-americans-to-take-charge-of-health-care-against-ebola/


74 posted on 10/12/2014 11:12:25 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: lulu16
lulu16: “...you will see that CDC does recommend N95 respirators for clinical situations where there will be aerosolization such as intubation or suctioning.
Mr. Duncan was both intubated and received kidney dialysis, both procedures
where the risk of blood or bloody body fluids being aerosolized is high. “

Good catch !
Interesting to note that the current frontline troops, MSF (Medicines Sans Frontiers)has reccomended an upgrade
from N-95 masks to P-100 due to particulate matter and airborne filtration for use in the field.
The CDC in their labs while working with Bio-Hazard Level IV, use 'space suits' with positive air pressure with a 'pig-tail' for independant air supply.
Also, the CDC labs use multiple layers for redundant safety issues.

86 posted on 10/13/2014 7:36:35 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: lulu16

Excellent information!

Even if it is over-kill, all aspects of this virus should be handled on the side of caution, i.e. travel ban from West Africa.

Not politicizing, but we all know that if we did not have a POTUS that was not using “anything black” politically, West African travel would have been temporarily shut down on the side of caution. Instead we have the CDC trying to fool us all with non-sensical almost comical claim that travel ban would slow down eradication.


94 posted on 10/13/2014 8:17:03 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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