Posted on 10/12/2014 6:11:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
And if it does, no one will be held responsible for its spread but the poor nurse who contracted it.
Well, that was uncalled for, I simply asked a question. Now I would like the answer from someone who knows.
In cases like Ebola it should be on a volunteer basis only.
How appropriate — ebola travels to America from the Black Continent by means of a black tourist while a black man is POTUS.
But it’s whitey’s fault. Go figure.
I would not hesitate either. I believe any of the family near Duncan will be fighting for their lives soon enough....on our dime of course.
Boom!
i’m waiting for the customs and immigration screeners to start getting infected.
I’m beginning to see all the cards line up and realize there are alot of very stupid people, who have been orchestrating this for a long time, thinking they are going to come out as winners, only to later find out they have been played by others, suckering them into their games.
Can it explode, too? The fact that it can release chlorine gas, even after a little exposure to high humidity, say, is probably enough to keep me away, never mind the other storage requirements. I don’t want it in the house and the garage gets way too hot in the summer. But I’m intrigued.
From your (above) link....
DO NOT STORE AT TEMPERATURES ABOVE: 52 Deg.C (125 Deg.F)
Storage above this temperature may result in rapid decomposition,
evolution of chlorine gas and heat sufficient to ignite combustible
products.
I just saw a story on the local news about nurses protesting because their hospitals have done nothing to prepare for Ebola. If more nurses die you can bet they will walk off the job if they are asked to care for Ebola patients, just like they did in Spain.
From the CDC/ Ebola website:
“Persons with percutaneous or mucocutaneous exposures to blood, body fluids, secretions, or excretions from a patient with suspected EVD should
Stop working and immediately wash the affected skin surfaces with soap and water. Mucous membranes (e.g., conjunctiva) should be irrigated with copious amounts of water or eyewash solution.”
You and that young student nurse are using more sanitary procedures than the CDC recommends.
And this I learned from a commenter on The Daily Beast ( go to see how the other side thinks)
“...you will see that CDC does recommend N95 respirators for clinical situations where there will be aerosolization such as intubation or suctioning. Mr. Duncan was both intubated and received kidney dialysis, both procedures where the risk of blood or bloody body fluids being aerosolized is high. “
This is the case for using respirators and not simply masks ( I put this on another thread).
“The precautionary principle—that any action designed to reduce risk should not await scientific certainty—compels the use of respiratory protection for a pathogen like Ebola virus that has:
No proven pre- or post-exposure treatment modalities
A high case-fatality rate
Unclear modes of transmission
We believe there is scientific and epidemiologic evidence that Ebola virus has the potential to be transmitted via infectious aerosol particles both near and at a distance from infected patients, which means that healthcare workers should be wearing respirators, not facemasks.1
The minimum level of protection in high-risk settings should be a respirator with an assigned protection factor greater than 10. A powered air-purifying respirator (PAPR) with a hood or helmet offers many advantages over an N95 filtering facepiece or similar respirator, being more protective, comfortable, and cost-effective in the long run...
The potential for transmission via inhalation of aerosols, therefore, cannot be ruled out by the observed risk factors or our knowledge of the infection process. Many body fluids, such as vomit, diarrhea, blood, and saliva, are capable of creating inhalable aerosol particles in the immediate vicinity of an infected person. Cough was identified among some cases in a 1995 outbreak in Kikwit, Democratic Republic of the Congo,11 and coughs are known to emit viruses in respirable particles.17 The act of vomiting produces an aerosol and has been implicated in airborne transmission of gastrointestinal viruses.18,19 Regarding diarrhea, even when contained by toilets, toilet flushing emits a pathogen-laden aerosol that disperses in the air.2”
Judge Jeanine says (on tonight’s show) we cannot trust the pResident or CDC on 0bola *facts*....that NOW is the time to take charge...
“It needs extreme poverty, stupidity, ignorance, superstition and lack of basic health-care infrastructure to go wild.”
You mean like a trained nurse in full protective gear in a major U.S. hospital?
And I don’t blame them.
“...but you’ll never keep the rest down if it were even going to do any good.”
That nursing/med student kept her alive with IV in her home. I looked on-line, and IV tubes/bags/needles need a prescription. I’m not sure how to do one homemade.
My thinking would be to run an IV solution (water, some salt, some suger) through an enema drip. I’m thinking (hoping?) that the patient would be able to handle that better than drinking the fluid.
A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread
Fixed it.
Not to mention that the protocol is, if you listen to them, a bunch of overkill...
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