.. all we do is spin wheels arguing for no good end.
While free & open debate of the issues is undoubtedly a good thing, there usually comes a point at which the primary aim risks becoming hopelessly mired in minutia and/or ego wrestling.
The instant case, along with countless others ad infinitum, and the reason for pinging Jim to this thread, reminds me of the Constitutional Convention.
How many times during that historic session did lesser sectional differences threaten to derail the entire process, thereby aborting our nation's very birth.
The primary question then, no more or less than now, was: were we to be a republic, or were we to continue into perpetuity as some fascist variation of a monarchical vassal state.
In that context, it's difficult to see the current crop of RINOs as anything other than 'the king's men', the 'men' descriptor being often in much doubt.
Their individual human flaws notwithstanding, it strains credulity to imagine Mr. Franklin, or the Adams cousins, et al lacking, in the end, the fortitude to declare: NO MONARCHY HERE !
And that's precisely the precipice on which our Nation is currently perched; teetering over the gapingly ravenous chasm which is the dustbin of history, and the grave of liberty and dreams.
Following the last CF 'election' of fraud, apathy, and (disgusting) white guilt that allowed the continuation of the putsch of '08, I changed my registration to Independent and haven't looked back for a moment.
Ever since, my email inbox delivers daily laughter for free via multiple mewling RINO slugs promising - always promising - sweetness and light this time in exchange for my vote and/or dollars.
(with much emphasis on the latter, of course)
So the snippet of your post that I quoted above is there for good reason, and leads to my final point.
While certainly no debate champion nor prolific writer, I prefer to think that forty years of paying relatively close attention to the nation's health have clarified (what passes for) my thinking.
And hence, I intend to forego engaging in pointless, often seemingly endless, wrangling with those who've chosen to prostitute themselves, with whatever motives, to GOPer prerogitaves.
Which is merely another way of saying that it's incumbent on each true citizen to weigh the shameful current state of affairs and decide for themselves: republic or monarchy.
Imho, if it's to be the latter, better that it crashes, with hopes of being rebuilt and maintained more strictly in alignment with the Founders' intentions the next time around.
Give me Liberty, or give me Death
And if that makes me a purist, so be it.
I wholly agree.
The same lies, condemnations and other crap fronted by the Rino/Dem/Freeper left is the same beaten into the ground crap that we have rehashed for literally 6 years. Enough is enough.
We have 2 years to get behind ONE conservative and get them on the ballot, funded and supported. We CANNOT do that, as history has proven, when all we do is wast resourse and effort arguing the same tired crap over and over.
We all see it. We all deal with it. Some of us are fighting with these fools daily while others simply want to avoid the drama altogether and I get that.
But there should be no drama. There should be no dispute that principle matters and electing principled people matters. We can’t even do that much because whether it’s flaglady 47 telling us we are Obama/Reid lovers, this clown or any of a number of other ‘freepers’ spewing Romney excuses 2 full years after he tanked the party and the election, a significant number of ‘our own’ are demonstratably on the same page, nor obviously believe in the basic concepts of conservatism.
It’s pretty basic stuff. If a person is arguing for situational ethics just to win, that’s not conservative. No argument can be made that it’s conservative. And when those idiots are trashing us for fighting for conservative values and positions, THEY are not conservative.
So as I said before many times. We can either get our collective act together and oppose the RINO/leftists in our own ranks or lets all just call it good and vote for whoever the GOP fronts this time because we don’t have any more foundational beliefs than they do.
One or the other. We get our shit together now and fight for what we believed or we get stomped. And that ain’t happening if we all let the lib wing of FR keep pushing RINOism and calling us the devil himself for the basics.