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Alibaba Founder Jack Ma: If you’re still poor at 35, you deserve it!
Vulcan Post ^ | 09/23/2014 | Zach Ho

Posted on 09/23/2014 7:33:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Amazing that a man from a “Communist” country is thinking like a capitalist and so many in a “Capitalist” country,( on a “Conservative” site!), think like commies!


41 posted on 09/23/2014 9:00:41 PM PDT by Nateman ( wheIf liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: GeronL

That’s not likely to happen when the Communist Party is throwing open its doors to the rich.

China is no longer the egalitarian utopia under Mao, who preferred China remain poor and blank than become rich and powerful.

Maoism is not the answer.


42 posted on 09/23/2014 9:02:51 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Most of he rich in China get that way through Cronyism. They know someone or are related to someone in high positions of authority.

Heck half of the companies in China are owned or partially owned by the People’s Liberation Army


43 posted on 09/23/2014 9:06:09 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind
"If you’re still poor at 35, you deserve it!"

I guess this depends on the reference frames and the individuals priorities.

I've had money, lots of it. Now I don't. I'm not poor, but at the same time, this makes me believe the author is missing some of the finer aspects of life. In the end, money means nothing, only family and friends. sure, it makes life more comfortable, but unless you inherited it, it's generally not worth the sacrifices of family and self.

So in other words, it's all in what it's worth to you. I'd personally rather be a home throwing the football with my boys than be away from them earning 500 bucks an hour... and I actually feel fortunate that I came to that realization long before I met my death bed... churning through my regrets. Life can end tonight, I'm not wasting one minute of it trying to stockpile money the Almighty doesn't let you bring through the gate.

44 posted on 09/23/2014 9:11:26 PM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: doc1019
"Gee, just take a dump on the rest of the world. Classy."

Spoken as a born again loser. Just whom do you blame for your lack of success?

45 posted on 09/23/2014 9:22:31 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: dfwgator

“I’ve said it for a long time, the biggest gap is the ambition gap.

Some people want to build companies, and get rich, or simply work hard to be the best they can be.

Others just want to sit around and get high all day.”

And still others bust their assess everyday only to see their paychecks go to sustain an ever increasing government leviathan that destroys opportunity for millions every day through it’s counter-productive actions.


46 posted on 09/23/2014 9:22:35 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Nateman

You needed scare quotes on “capitalist” not “communist”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government-owned_companies_of_China


47 posted on 09/23/2014 9:25:24 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Buffalo Head

You are assuming that I’m a loser. LOL! Speaks volumes.


48 posted on 09/23/2014 9:26:41 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: SeekAndFind

Hillary was broke at 50+ and we know how ambitious she is.


49 posted on 09/23/2014 9:29:57 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The rent is too damn high!


50 posted on 09/23/2014 9:34:40 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: GeronL

Every country has government-owned companies.

Its not like China is a great exception.


51 posted on 09/23/2014 9:37:58 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

You think a government-owned economy is awesome or something?

Almost everything sold on Alibaba comes from a government-owned corporation.


52 posted on 09/23/2014 10:03:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: PieterCasparzen

With all due respect you just intimated that everyone that is poor is stupid, which is certainly a step down from lazy. Not only that but I’ve known plenty of highly compensated executives that are as dumb as stumps.


53 posted on 09/23/2014 10:07:47 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus
A man with government to start a business selling government-owned corporations products around the world is a CRONY "Capitalist".

Alibaba is the product of the China International Electronic Commerce Center. All they did was to give it a legitimate "corporate" front, Alibaba.

"From 1998 to 1999, Ma headed an information technology company established by the China International Electronic Commerce Center, a department of the Ministry of Foreign Trade and Economic Cooperation. "

It is hard to believe that any FReeper would think China is actually a capitalist country when most of its large corporations and stuff are government-owned. This is just a modern version of Russia exporting government Vodka for "hard currency" to buy grain.

It is nothing a conservative should support.

54 posted on 09/23/2014 10:14:09 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind

First of all define “poor”. Are we talking in an absolute sense, or a relative sense?

People in Haiti are “poor”, really poor. People in this country may be “poor” relative to others, but for the most part they have the basic necessities of life.


55 posted on 09/23/2014 10:16:10 PM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: Peter Libra
The true test of what this gentleman says, is whether he is a truly happy human being.

At this point in time, few people really know whether he is happy.

Jack's mantra is "Customer #1, employee #2, shareholder #3". Common sense: if the customers are happy, all are happy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUwmakdaye4&t=4m22s (2011)

Reiterated last Friday. "The hero I had was Forrest Gump ... I watched the movie 10 times ... last time before today".

56 posted on 09/23/2014 10:44:50 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Durus

If you would please read it again, I’m sure you’ll see that I did not say or imply that “everyone” that is poor is “stupid”.

I’m simply saying not everyone is capable of being a software developer.

Note that this does not mean they’re “stupid”. They may have a PhD in medicine, but still not have the capability to write a computer program. And, of course, there are programmers that are very good at programming, but do not have the aptitude to be a successful surgeon, lawyer, etc.

I’ve also personally known people - strange as this may seem - only graduated 8th grade, and they did not have much interest in school, and would hardly consider themselves highly intelligent. But I’ve seen at least one have their own business for many years with a very reasonable amount of success, and others have steady jobs their whole lives and be fairly well financially secure. None of them could do much of anything on a computer, and none are/were multi-millionaires. My point was that there is nothing wrong with them not becoming multi-millionaires - and they had FAR more ambition, working LONG days at “real” jobs where they had to actually think and work, than MANY folks I see running around today.

Most of us, undoubtedly, have also seen folks that were actually lazy and did not make good use of the capabilities they had and thus did not do well financially - although some of these folks actually do well financially, as in, the case of the person who, as they say, falls ass-backwards into money.

Sometimes very intelligent, hard-working people fall prey to temptations, or make mistakes indicative of human frailty - they aren’t lazy or stupid, just human. Sometimes these mistakes can take decades to recover from; sometimes the person never recovers.

I was simply trying to point out what should be obvious, that to simply paint with a broad brush and label everyone that is not a millionaire as lazy is a gross oversimplification and flat out wrong.

The new world order financial elites of society love to put this sort of lie into the public’s mind so a) it will motivate the intelligent, ambitious folks to unwittingly work hard for new world order as its “minions” (just drop by linkedin and you’ll find them by the thousand) and b) so those who are hard-working but not rich will not bother looking at the corruption and criminality of the elites thus not understand how the various programs and criminal agendas of the elites have them living as unwitting economic slaves.


57 posted on 09/23/2014 10:51:10 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Inyo-Mono
I don’t know who this Jackma is or what Alibaba means, but he can just...

Quoth Jack, this is how he decided on the company name:

One day I was in San Francisco in a coffee shop, and I was thinking Alibaba is a good name. And then a waitress came, and I said, "Do you know about Alibaba?" And she said yes. I said, "What do you know about Alibaba?", and she said, "Alibaba and 40 thieves". And I said, "Yes, this is the name!" Then I went onto the street and found 30 people and asked them, "Do you know Alibaba?" People from India, people from Germany, people from Tokyo and China … they all knew about Alibaba. Alibaba — open sesame. Alibaba is a kind, smart business person, and he helped the village. So … easy to spell, and globally known. Alibaba opens sesame for small- to medium-sized companies. We also registered the name "Alimama", in case someone wants to marry us!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Baba

58 posted on 09/23/2014 11:00:37 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: SeekAndFind
Sounds a bit like Billionaire Richard Branson of the Virgin companies......he started selling records from a cart in the London street market.....

And Jerry Sanders...founder of Advanced Micro Devices....paid his way through college as a prize fighter.

59 posted on 09/23/2014 11:09:10 PM PDT by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: spokeshave; All
Try telling that Col. Sanders, make it big @ over the age of 65. 😆
60 posted on 09/23/2014 11:17:14 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in political in always to pick up a weapon...eh? "Bathhouse" 0'Mullah? d8^)
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