You confuse my pointing out the fallacies of believing a fence is the solution to secure the border with total opposition to a fence. You are wrong again.
You still got nothin'.
Enjoy some pics of your spectacular San Diego double pedestrian fencing.
Forget ladders, Norm. They've got axes and battery-operated saws.
And tunnels with electricity and rails.
And the cost? 14 miles of primary fence in San Diego was initially projected to cost $1 million per mile. It ended up costing $21 million per mile. Annual maintenance costs appear to be approximately $8 million per mile.
14 miles of primary fence for $294 million and $112 million per year every year after that. Now multiply that by ~2000 miles of border. Let's spend $16 billion per year to maintain a fence when we could pay $200 million per year to station a BP officer every half mile. Yeah, that's cost-effective.
BTW, that doesn't include buying land from private property owners, some of whom have been cut off from their own damn country. Fenced out of Texas and the United States. Oh well. Good luck to 'em.
Actually yes I have something. The reality of the situation.
Perhaps you’d care to explain to the class how it is you are ‘not totally opposed to a fence’ when you call it too expensive, post photos showing isolated examples of a breach and complain about everything from location to maintainance? Which parts and where exactly are you good with one?
Are you saying that if we build it ‘over there somewhere’ that all those supposed dealkillers magically vanish and then it becomes viable? See, you can’t have your fence and stop it too.
Your post above is one gigantic contradiction. you spend the whole thing railing on cost and maintainance with photos ‘proving’ it is not a 100% security solution. Well, not one of us pro fencers ever said it was. It has to be combined with all that other ‘smart fencing’ tech that on it’s own has proven daily to leak like a sieve and suffers from control by Dem and GOP illegal immigrant supporters.
The next point is just what value do you put as too great a cost to achieve border security? Obama and Bhoner spend more in a given week sending foreign aid to terrorists than it would cost to build the whole thing. And their ongoing lotto giveaway would pay the upkeep a thousand times over per YEAR. The cost argument fails on all levels. There is no such thing as ‘too expensive’ in this situation if you intend to have a working solution. And fences, as article after article have shown, work.
Ultimately, as I mentioned and as others have posted to you in the past, Google lists thousands of articles showing beyond rational argument that the fences result in massive reductions in illegal incursion. Post all the tunnel rail pix you like. For every relative handful that have to save up for years to buy a ticket on the Coyote Streamliner, tens of thousands await a ladder from Rick Perry while their feet rest upon the mother soil of Tijuana.
As to the poor downtrodden landowners who can’t use their own land now without armed patrols that occasionally result in THEM being jailed for a wonton and shameful act of self defense, that’s why they get paid off. And since they can’t use their land now without fear of life, limb or imprisonment, I’d say selling it is the best deal going.
PS, we plumbed the Mohave desert from the Colorado River to SOCal (20 min from my house) so we can figure out how to get the cows water in about 30 seconds.
So, in sum, you either have to oppose the fence because you don’t want to pay for the security it provides, you are willing to have America attempt to absorb the invasion, you don’t want the lovely views of Tijuana disturbed or you’re trolling. Because since Rick’s video game only fence is a proven failure by itself and the SD fence is proven to work, you have no other options here.
Pols refuse to allow BP to repel the invaders, the military cannot be used in any capacity but ‘target’.
And ultimately, how are your efforts are no different from a full throated paid LaRaza agent? They post/promote flat out lies and propaganda about the effectiveness of the SD fence and so do you. They make excuses for why America ‘can’t’ and so do you. They use pictures like yours in media to ‘prove’ their points while in truth the fence in place today has massively reduced illegal incursion, is being paid for and thus by every definition, meets it’s express reason to exist.
The left can and does point to people doing what you do and says ‘SEE? even conservatives oppose the fence!” that being a repeatedly demonstrated fact in broadcasts across the country, how exactly are you benefiting ‘our team?” You tell me. Tell us all how demonstratedly harming the cause you claim in public is a net gain for the home team.
Yea actually ‘I got’ lots. And thats why I encourage anyone still reading this thread or anyone that may come across it to research the issue. I do not expect or want anyone to take my word for it. All the facts are out there for anyone to read.
And if you insist on talking in circles and posting the same proven tom be crap, half truths and general nonsense that flies in the face of logic and demonstrated reality, don’t be shocked when you get called on it. And to be completely honest, I really don’t care if your friends and defenders here get their panties in a bunch. If they want to defend a fantasy, it’s on their rep, not mine.