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1 posted on 08/21/2014 8:32:35 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: narses; wagglebee

He recants...sort of.


2 posted on 08/21/2014 8:33:16 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Good, Dawkins, then give me controls of the time machine so that I can go back and visit the Obamadork’s whore mother.


3 posted on 08/21/2014 8:34:42 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Morgana
if your morality is based, as mine is, on a desire to increase the sum of happiness...

And therein lies the rub.

4 posted on 08/21/2014 8:37:05 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (Liars use facts when the truth doesn't suit their purposes.)
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To: Morgana

How quickly we forget that the Nazi also advocated killing the “unfit”.


5 posted on 08/21/2014 8:37:42 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Morgana

Richerd Dawkins has been quite critical of Islam these days so he has some cojones. Previously he took the easy way out, just walking on Chistianity.

IIRC I once read him saying that he had no problem with schools teaching about the history of Christianity and some of the Bible due to it being essential to English history and culture


6 posted on 08/21/2014 8:40:44 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Morgana

Had to look this guy up.
Oxford professor.
“Militant atheist”
Self-important arbiter of modern morality.


7 posted on 08/21/2014 8:41:34 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: Morgana

I saw God’s Not Dead last weekend. Some spotty acting and a bit contrived, but a GREAT story and movie.


9 posted on 08/21/2014 8:44:16 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Morgana
In March, 2009 I posted a reply asserting that the left hated Sarah Palin because their reaction was involuntary; it was the reflexive action of evil in the presence of good. The flashpoint was Palin's breach of a fundamental progressive commandment on abortion.

Here is a portion of that reply:

"It is the Billy Budd effect. If you recall your Melville, you will know that Billy Budd was a figure of good whose very presence antagonized the first mate who persecuted Billy Budd unmercifully. The mate was driven to do this unconsciously because the mate was a figure of evil. The mate had his demons. So it is with the left in America today, they are driven to a visceral hatred of Sarah Palin because she is the 21st century figure of Billy Budd. Sarah Palin committed an unforgivable affront, she knowingly carried a Mongoloid to term. This cannot be forgiven. This is the ultimate reproach to the entire belief system of the left. Sarah Palin need not even open her mouth and she is hated with a cold and unremitting fury.

This is why I said that the left hates Sarah Palin not for what she says or how she appears on television but for who she is. The left must react as evil always reacts in the presence of good. Like the second mate, they must persecute Sarah Palin and they do not even know why."


11 posted on 08/21/2014 8:49:45 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Morgana
Thank you for posting.

By his "doubling down," Dawkins further reveals an empty reservoir of understanding.

A wisdom book from centuries past cautions:

"Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding." - Proverbs 4:7

The love brought into this world, and celebrated in the faces of those Dawkins would exclude from entering it, is a testament to the emptiness of his declarations.

May I suggest that FR readers order one of Ben Haden's long-ago sermons entitled, "Affliction," in which he relates a story about the unexpected birth of a Down's Syndrome baby to a minister and his wife, and how God used the birth of that child, and the people and events surrounding the couple's reaction to that birth to have a positive influence on the lives of many individuals.

Haden's web site address is. Now deceased, Haden was an attorney, newspaper editor, and Presbyterian minister whose "Changed Lives" radio program and internet presence made a powerful difference in the lives of many.

12 posted on 08/21/2014 8:51:15 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Morgana

So, Dawkins is a Eugenicist. Why am I not surprised?

Go play in traffic, you self-righteous fascist.


13 posted on 08/21/2014 8:52:06 AM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo Man is always intense.)
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To: Morgana
Too bad Dawkins’s mother didn't do us all a favor by aborting Richard.
14 posted on 08/21/2014 8:52:13 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: Morgana

What he is aching to say is, “The moral and sensible choice is to abort those babies with an abundance of melanin.”

They do it anyway, they just don’t say it.


16 posted on 08/21/2014 9:05:48 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Morgana

These are the people that my mother called “God’s Special People”, and we would be judged by how we treat them.

In the old days, they were called “retarded”.

Today, it is not PC to use such terms and you will be vilified for using such language.

The leftist condemns a person for using the term, but they have no qualms about murdering a baby that fits the definition of the word.


17 posted on 08/21/2014 9:09:50 AM PDT by bobo1 (progressives=commies/fascists)
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To: Morgana

Dawkins is a sociopath. I wouldn’t take moral instruction from him any more than I would from Ted Bundy if he were still alive.


21 posted on 08/21/2014 9:45:40 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Morgana

In his godless world he would start with those with Down Syndrome and end up killing anyone who does not agree with his perverted, sick views.


25 posted on 08/21/2014 10:26:29 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Morgana

He does not recant at all. He is explaining the basis of his ethics which is classic Utilitarian philosphy. It’s the standard philosophy taught in medical ethics according to the Chronical of Higher Education.

Utilitarian Philosophy
“Utilitarianism is mainly characterized by two elements: happiness and consequentialism. Utilitarian happiness is the biggest happiness which (supposetly) every human being looks for. In utilitarianism everything useful to happiness is good. Therefore, the name of the doctrine is utilitarianism, based on the principle of utility. Utility is found in every thing which contributes to the happiness of every rational being. The criterion of good and evil is balanced between individual’s happiness and the happiness of the community, “each counting in an equal way” (Bentham, Introduction in the principles of morality and legislation). Consequentialism in utilitarianism is in the fact that an action must be judged for its consequences on the happiness of the largest number. That is: my search for happiness stops when it decreases the happiness of another individual or the happiness of the largest number, of the society or the community. “

When these guys seek “happiness” they always seem to err on the side of death. It’s not just the disabled who they think should be killed, it’s the elderly or babies from unplanned pregnancy. The individual human has no intrinsic value to them.


29 posted on 08/21/2014 1:48:04 PM PDT by Varda
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