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Tony Stewart Kills Driver In Tragic Collision, As NASCAR Reels And Police Investigate
www.forbes.com ^ | 8/10/2014 | Dan Diamond

Posted on 08/10/2014 5:04:09 AM PDT by CaptainK

NASCAR star Tony Stewart hit and killed another driver who was walking on the track in a sprint car race on Saturday night.

The other driver, Kevin Ward Jr., had collided with Stewart on the previous lap, leaving Ward’s car with a flat tire and pushed into the wall. As officials threw a caution, Ward left his car and began walking down the track — gesturing angrily toward Stewart — before being clipped and dragged 50 feet by Stewart’s car.

Several spectators told Bob Pockrass of The Sporting News that Stewart appeared to throttle his car before colliding with Ward.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: kevinward; kevinwardjr; nascar; tonystewart
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To: driftdiver

Well, you’re more than welcome to state what part of those comments “appear” to be inaccurate to you.


321 posted on 08/10/2014 4:40:26 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: driftdiver

By the way, I never said it was a “factual statement.”

I said after reviewing the video evidence and interpreting it in an unbiased manner it appears the suspect vehicle was clearly able to see the victim prior to point of impact.

No?


322 posted on 08/10/2014 4:44:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
I'm referring to your use of the word. From your post

"Again, based on the video evidence, it appears the suspect driver had full view of the victim well prior to point of impact."

I'm amazed that someone can tell what view the driver had from that video. I mean considering the poor lighting, distance, angle, and extremely brief time TS was on the video.

323 posted on 08/10/2014 4:46:00 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
If the victim clearly saw the driver, in fact was pointing at the driver who was approaching, and was staring right at him as he defiantly approached the vehicle and appeared to possibly yelling and pointing right at it.

The vehicle just prior to the suspect vehicle was no where near in front of the suspect vehicle, and was clearly on the inside of the track, away from the front of the suspect vehicle.

It appears the suspect driver clearly saw the victim prior to impact and in fact even had time to rev his engine and break traction at about the time of point of impact.

I'm amazed that someone can tell what view the driver had from that video.

You're talking from both sides of your mouth, or keyboard in this case.

Please read the above previous post very s-l-o-w-l-y, and note I said, "based on video evidence."

Video makes real good evidence...Like the Internet.

And again, I noted you did not dispute any of it.

324 posted on 08/10/2014 4:52:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Yer talking out your hind end. Just because the dead guy saw the car doesn’t mean TS could see him, did see him or had time to react.

The fault for this incident lies with the guy walking on the track. ANYTHING else based on this video is pure speculation. To say you hear TS rev his engine in that video is hogwash. There is no way to know whose engine is revving.


325 posted on 08/10/2014 4:58:57 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Lemme make is simple for ya, if you can see the suspect vehicle and you are defiantly walking towards it, pointing right at it as it approaches, why would the suspect driver not be able to see you?

Now remember based on the video, the *first* and *last* vehicle to pass the victim prior to the suspect vehicle, was clearly was lower side or inside of the track.

This would obviously suggest there was NO vehicle in front of or blocking the view of the suspect vehicle, as the suspect vehicle was clearly higher up or more on the outside of the track, prior to impact.

This was all pretty clear in the video...Slow it down and watch it...

It’s hard to miss.


326 posted on 08/10/2014 5:02:12 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

“why would the suspect driver not be able to see you?”

A million reasons. From lighting, to other cars, to the fact that visibility to the right in those cars sux. It could also be the fact that nobody expects to see a guy walking down the track in the middle of a race.

The vehicle isn’t a suspect, your judgement is. You’re building assumption upon assumption upon assumption and then declaring it fact.

The only fact here is the young man got out of his car, acted angry, and stepped into traffic on a race track.


327 posted on 08/10/2014 5:13:36 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
So you don't dispute there was no vehicle directly in front of or blocking the forward view the suspect vehicle prior to impact?

Are you not disputing the suspect vehicle had time to rev his engine and break traction at nearly the point of impact with the victim?

It could also be the fact that nobody expects to see a guy walking down the track in the middle of a race.

A slight issue with your comment here.

Did the suspect driver not know a quick lap prior he had sent the victim vehicle into the wall?

Should this have not caused the suspect vehicle to proceed very slowly as you come around the track, knowing damn well there could be debris, vehicles or victims on the track?

328 posted on 08/10/2014 5:19:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: driftdiver
You’re building assumption upon assumption upon assumption

No, they are strictly based on the video evidence, the same evidence investigators will be looking at.

No?

Go ahead and answer the questions above.

329 posted on 08/10/2014 5:21:36 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: yldstrk

The video I saw was inconclusive from the angle it was shot.

It was hard to tell what happened at the point of impact...


330 posted on 08/10/2014 5:26:09 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: jjotto

Yeah, what happened to mandatory red or emergency services orange jumpsuits? Or at the very least the luminescent reflective material. I remember my early days in law enforcement doing traffic control at sporting events and such. I wouldn’t have thought of doing traffic control without an orange vest or reflective vest on, let alone running around on an active race track.

CC


331 posted on 08/10/2014 5:27:34 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: ridesthemiles

You’re right. A lot of these amateur and semi pro racing events serve the same purpose as AAA baseball leagues. Amateur racing is the “farm team” of motorsports.

CC


332 posted on 08/10/2014 5:36:28 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: dragnet2
At least one other driver ahead of Stewart had to severely swerve in order to avoid hitting the person who was on foot. He could have been killed right then.

I've seen many incidents where a driver gets out of his car to shout at somebody, but I've never seen someone run around on a dark, dimly lit dirt track, in the middle of a race, where the rest of the field is taking laps under the yellow flag.

Nobody will ever know what was going through Stewart's mind at that moment, except for Tony Stewart. Maybe someday he will say something about it.

The young man snapped and did something very foolish which forced at least one other driver to swerve to avoid hitting him.

Unless some compelling evidence to the contrary appears, it's pretty clear that this young driver caused his own death.

333 posted on 08/10/2014 5:39:18 PM PDT by sargon
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To: dragnet2

What question is that? The video? It shows an angry man jumping in front of a racecar and getting killed.

Thats all it shows.


334 posted on 08/10/2014 5:42:42 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

It also shows the apparent lack of an attempt to avoid impact by the driver. The driver immediately preceding slowed and veered, so Ward was visible.


335 posted on 08/10/2014 5:47:55 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: sargon
At least one other driver ahead of Stewart had to severely swerve in order to avoid hitting the person who was on foot. He could have been killed right then.

I not referring to other vehicles.

I am referring to the last vehicle to pass the victim just prior to the suspect vehicle striking the victim.

That last vehicle was no where near in front of the suspect vehicle, and was clearly on the lower or inside of the track, away from the front of the suspect vehicle. The suspect vehicle was higher up or more on the outside of the track. This seems evident based on the video.

This would clearly indicate the suspect vehicle forward view was not blocked prior to impact. And the victim clearly was able to see the suspect vehicle prior to impact, as he was pointing right at it as it approached.

BTW, I am not attempting to get into anyone's mind, I am just interpreting what the video depicts.

336 posted on 08/10/2014 5:49:36 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: RegulatorCountry

It doesn’t prove TS saw him, or steered towards him, or wanted to scare him, or wanted to kill him.

Good grief, the young man was running around on a RACE TRACK during a race and you’re blaming Tony Stewart just because you don’t like him.


337 posted on 08/10/2014 5:51:02 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
It could also be the fact that nobody expects to see a guy walking down the track in the middle of a race.

Are you suggesting the suspect driver not know a quick lap prior he had sent the victim vehicle into the wall?

Should this have not caused the suspect vehicle to proceed with extreme caution as he came around after this collision?

338 posted on 08/10/2014 5:51:39 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: driftdiver

So you don’t dispute there was no vehicle directly in front of or blocking the forward view the suspect vehicle prior to impact?

Are you not disputing the suspect vehicle had time to rev his engine and break traction at nearly the point of impact with the victim?


339 posted on 08/10/2014 5:52:31 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Huh, are you drunk?

Go run out in traffic and see what happens to you. Its what happened to this young man. Tragically but its his fault.


340 posted on 08/10/2014 5:54:13 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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