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To: coloradan
AHH, but you are wrong, grasshopper. He is libertarian on almost his entire approach,....except economics. Many libertarians are libertarians for the economics of it. Many young libertarians are there just for legal dope. The typical libertarian is in Denver Colorado partying right now. They want legal sodomy and legal abortion also. Many want the border removed completely. I've talked with them and you would swear they would be Dems, but then the big "L" word comes out. Stossel is grooming them as we speak. They believe they are intellectuals and superior to others. They have almost no practical experience with their theory. In 5 years, if we are still here, dope will be put back in jail or America will be 3rd world. Baby killing has brought elderly murder and the disabled. Well, now we have ObamaCare deciding who get saved and who dies. Choosing to kill people is not libertarian, even though they want to protect the woman from government control. Natural Law says people are people. The baby is "people", just as the elderly Alzheimer patient is. It comes from a moral code as old as the planet and they are't happy with it. Just as the Bible says a man that won't work to support his family is worse than an infidel, laws on murder and sodomy come from God, along with the rights God gives all of us. Without God, we are all at the mercy of men that change rights with the wind change.

The thing that takes discernment is Obama's social idea's are exactly libertarian, but his economics are straight out of Marx. Ergo, people say he's a socialist/Marxist. All the economic libertarianism in the world, can't save a country that murders people in the name of freedom, or economics. If we are forced to keep ObamaCare, you will soon see it going broke and to conserve money, we will start withholding treatments and drugs to certain people that don't "deserve" the largess from the "real" needy people. Social libertarianism is the same thinking of economic liberalism. Economic theory from Milton Freedman and social theory from the Bible is what works. Social libertarianism will break down and require laws to regulate it,...it's inevitable. All the trans- bathrooms for children at school, Heather has 2 mommies, now they want multiple wives, children have 3 parents, and on and on, it's all from "What do you care as long as it doesn't affect you". Man's heart is continually evil, who can know it. Eventually, it will affect you.

Some libertarians invoke the Founders, as if they believe the Founders were on their side. The foundation of the country was on individual freedom and freedom to worship God. Atheists weren't elected or revered much in those days. The laws were ALL based on Scripture. The founders wanted people left alone until they sinned against God and nature. None were libertarian to my knowledge.

96 posted on 08/04/2014 9:00:04 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles
He is libertarian on almost his entire approach,....except economics.

That's what I thought you said. Supporting Syrian rebels is not libertarian and is not economic. Supporting the uprisings in Egypt and Ukraine is not libertarian and is not economic. Running guns to known Mexican drug cartels is not libertarian and is not economic. Giving a pass to Jon Corzine for stealing client money at MF Global is not libertarian is not not economic. Using the IRS to audit conservative groups is not libertarian and is not economic. I could go on, but if I haven't gotten anywhere yet I'm not likely to with many more examples, either. Suffice it to say that I strongly disagree with your statement that "He is libertarian on almost his entire approach,....except economics." He is nothing of the sort.

110 posted on 08/04/2014 9:43:01 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: chuckles
"The thing that takes discernment is Obama's social idea's are exactly libertarian..."

That's just wacky.

111 posted on 08/04/2014 9:44:50 PM PDT by mlo
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