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To: ansel12
LOL, see, you are a dedicated fighter for abortion and gay marriage.

Sod off, troll.

The feds have their own areas of control, for instance in marriage and the military, the Congresses were passing law in regards to that in 1780, 1794, and 1798, 1802 and ever since,

Because what early congress does is obviously Constitutional… now, where's my copy of the Alien and Sedition Acts?

regardless of your evasive fantasies to avoid admitting that you are fighting us on gay marriage for the feds

I am not for gay marriage for the feds; sod off, troll.

just as you fight us on abortion and the feds, the feds have their own medical facilities, that is why the military could get abortions during the Vietnam war era, and they also have to decide law and policy for immigrants and in the state department and in foreign policy

I am against abortion; I am, however, not willing to injure the Constitution's restraints on the federal government in order to achieve it.
Sod off, troll.

I don’t care about your little fantasy world, it does bother me that we conservatives are the ones you oppose here.

No, what you don't care about is constitutional limits; sod off, troll.

It’s our pro-life and pro-marriage politics that you fight and mock,

I've not mocked anyone on this matter; please show me where I have.
Oh, and before I forget, sod off troll.

you want to make your gains at the federal level under Obama unchallenged, we want to reverse them.

Because not recognizing the federal level as appropriate authority is the same as endorsing the use of authority at the federal level?
You're not rational; sod off, crazy troll.

117 posted on 08/04/2014 10:25:49 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

If you don’t support gay marriage for the military, then support us ending it, the same goes for abortion. Instead you keep evading the gay marriage in the military issue claiming that the Congress didn’t know what they were doing in 1780, 1794, 1798 and in all the years since in regards to marriage and the military as you do your fantasy bit, to give you an excuse to fight conservatism from behind a fig leaf.

Do you realize that a DU member could sign up here and argue with us pro-life, pro-marriage conservatives all day, year after year, using the same technique that you do, fight our politics, our party, our candidates, our legislative proposals, everything, just by using your methods.

The federal government has a lot to do with abortion, and not just abortion on military bases for federal employees, but in foreign policy, and their national issue influence is immeasurable.

Here is just one example:
*The Mexico City Policy requires all non-governmental organizations (NGOs) that receive federal funding to refrain from performing or promoting abortion services as a method of family planning with non-US government funds in other countries. The policy has not been in effect since January 23, 2009. Since 1973, USAID has followed the Helms Amendment ruling, banning use of US Government funds to provide abortion as a method of family planning anywhere in the world.

The policy was enacted by Republican President Ronald Reagan in 1984, rescinded by Democratic President Bill Clinton in January 1993, re-instituted in January 2001 as President George W. Bush took office, and rescinded January 23, 2009, 2 days after Democratic President Barack Obama took office.*


119 posted on 08/04/2014 10:40:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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