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To: miss marmelstein
Here's what you said exactly: "She’ll probably be doing her annual apology tour (”I’m not a traitor, really - it was my bastard ex-husband Tom who sent me there!”) Which, actually, is true. Tom sent her over there with - I think - a Russian passport - while he sat at home worrying that he wouldn’t get elected to office if he was seen sitting on a Vietnamese rocket launcher."

Please point out that parts where I misquoted you or where you indicated that you were joking.

As far as me being a "Jerky Fonda Hater" I am also a disabled combat veteran of the Vietnam War. I probably have more skin in the game than you do - literally. If you can't be courteous and you can't tell the difference between a rocket launcher and a cannon, maybe being silent for a while would be more appropriate.

110 posted on 07/30/2014 5:54:50 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

You have consistently and purposely misinterpreted my posts - now you’ve taken my words “jerky Fonda hater” out of context. I called you a jerky Fonda hater for hating on me as a Fonda hater. I’ll go toe to toe with you any day on disliking that woman.

Also, you said that I believed Fonda only took up radical politics when she met up with Tom Hayden. While it is true that he was behind her going to Viet Nam she was deeply involved in radical politics at least by 1969. I was in college at the time and remembered her weird transformation from Barbarella to a cropped-haired radical. After listening to Simone Signoret at about this time who told her to go to India to find out what “real” poverty was like, Fonda took off to Bombay by herself and didn’t like what she saw. Somehow - just like Jean Seberg - this got transformed into hating America. I wonder if the Montands paid for all these starlets trips to India...

You also implied that I thought she was a victim somehow - something to the effect of being a dewey-eyed actress - I don’t have the exact quote in front of me. That thought never entered my mind. She was completely in control of her actions although I do believe her when she wrote that Hayden was a coward for not going to Hanoi with her. In this, I think she’s telling the truth.

Thank you for your service but not knowing a rocket launcher, cannon or other military equipment does not turn me into a Fonda-lover. I have made jokes about Fonda consistently throughout this thread - as have others. Humor, also, does not turn me into a Fonda-lover.


111 posted on 07/30/2014 6:28:27 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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