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New Evidence of MH370 Cockpit Tampering Emerges in Probe
NDTV ^ | June 30, 2014 | World / Press Trust of India

Posted on 07/01/2014 6:55:01 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Investigators probing the disappearance of Flight MH370 have discovered possible new evidence of tampering with the plane's cockpit equipment which experts believe could be part of an attempt to avoid radar detection ....

A report released by Australian air crash investigators shows that the missing Boeing 777 suffered a mysterious power outage during the early stages of its flight ....

The plane's satellite data unit made an unexpected "log-on" request to a satellite less than 90 minutes into its flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, according to the report.

The report says the log-on request - known as a "handshake" - appears likely to have been caused by an interruption of electrical power on board the plane, which experts believe could be part of an attempt to avoid radar detection.

"A log-on request in the middle of a flight is not common," the report by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau said.

"An analysis was performed which determined that the characteristics and timing of the logon requests were best matched as resulting from power interruption," the report was quoted by the British daily as saying.

David Gleave, an aviation safety expert from Loughborough University, said the interruption to the power supply appeared to be the result of someone in the cockpit attempting to minimise the use of the aircraft's systems.

The action, he said, was consistent with an attempt to turn the plane's communications and other systems off in an attempt to avoid radar detection.

"A person could be messing around in the cockpit which would lead to a power interruption," he was quoted as saying....

"By messing about within the cockpit you could switch off the power temporarily and switch it on again when you need the other systems to fly the aeroplane," Gleave said....

(Excerpt) Read more at ndtv.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Travel
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Interesting bit of info into the mind of the pilot.

So in addition to turning off ACARS/tansponders at the beginning to avoid being tracked, the pilot then follows that up by cutting the power to probably everything but the engines an hour later in order to go dark just before he makes his critical turn.

The report inadvertently indicates about where/when this cut in power likely occurred as it shows the point that the plane was last seen by Malaysian radar at 18:22 followed by the Log On Request at 18:25 and that followed by the likely restoration of power at 18:29 when the turn would have occurred.

1 posted on 07/01/2014 6:55:01 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Seems to me this would have been one of the first things checked ... ANYthing that has/had to do with navigation/info-sharing, etc.


2 posted on 07/01/2014 6:57:24 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Uncle Chip

So they were smart enough to be tampering with the radar and avoid detection. Plane may be in Kyrgyzstan.


3 posted on 07/01/2014 6:57:43 AM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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The Report is here:

http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2014/june/mr052_MH370_Definition_of_Sea_Floor_Wide_Area_Search.pdf


4 posted on 07/01/2014 6:57:48 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

“possible new evidence”

Oh, brother.


5 posted on 07/01/2014 7:01:06 AM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: Uncle Chip

We will find that plane.

Unfortunately it will be after it is used for an attack.

One of these days, we are going to have to admit we are in a war.


6 posted on 07/01/2014 7:01:50 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Uncle Chip

What about the possibility that there was a fire on board?


7 posted on 07/01/2014 7:02:00 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Uncle Chip

Betcha Sheik Obomba knows where it is.


8 posted on 07/01/2014 7:03:04 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: PapaNew

Not likely that the plane would have then flown for another 6 hours coming on and off autopilot for regular course corrections after a fire.


9 posted on 07/01/2014 7:05:50 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Early reports of the plane being flown to 40K feet suggested everyone in the plane OTHER THAN possibly the captain (who has a better system of reserve air tanks to breath) would have been rendered unconscious and likely died within 5 minutes.

That would leave the captain to do as he pleased. Likely he sent the copilot out of the cabin and locked the door when he did this.


10 posted on 07/01/2014 7:10:22 AM PDT by sevinufnine (A moderately bad man knows he is not very good. A thoroughly bad man thinks he's alright. C.S. Lewis)
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To: Uncle Chip

OK ... I have never personally flown anything with more than two props on it, but ...

EVERYTHING has a breaker and/or a fuse on general aviation aircraft.

I wonder if this was as simple as flipping off the right breaker? The panels are all accessible in flight.

Would need a ‘heavy’ pilot to weigh in here.


11 posted on 07/01/2014 7:12:45 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: knarf

It would seem so but it took 3 months for the Malaysians to release its military radar data showing where and when the plane was last seen and its direction.

That little piece of information fills in a big blank.


12 posted on 07/01/2014 7:12:56 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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“We will find that plane. Unfortunately it will be after it is used for an attack.”

Wonder why all the eye witness accounts of islanders seeing a plane flying VERY low, and those on the oil rigs who thought they saw one in distress were never given any investigation I’ve seen reported.

Regardless of whether it was highjacked and to be used as a flying bullet to somewhere....or purposefully taken into the sea by a mad man pilot, the weakness of being able to track large commercial planes in that area of the world is now widely known to all terrorist groups.


13 posted on 07/01/2014 7:16:23 AM PDT by sevinufnine (A moderately bad man knows he is not very good. A thoroughly bad man thinks he's alright. C.S. Lewis)
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To: Uncle Chip

thanx for the reminder


14 posted on 07/01/2014 7:18:51 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: sevinufnine

It is possible according to this that when power was cut to go dark the oxygen to the passengers/crew was cut at the same time. Those 7 minutes between 18:22 and 18:29 might be when everyone but the pilot succumbed to hypoxia.


15 posted on 07/01/2014 7:19:46 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Yuppers. But we still cannot say if the plane was really flown to the south and ditched in the sea, or if it headed north. Some country’s radar system must have seen it for sure, and if so why nothing being said? Hell, they can read our license plates from a satellite. What’s the deal?


16 posted on 07/01/2014 7:23:08 AM PDT by sevinufnine (A moderately bad man knows he is not very good. A thoroughly bad man thinks he's alright. C.S. Lewis)
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To: sevinufnine

Careful. Simply flying the plane to the upper limit of its service ceiling would not incapacitate anyone. Unless of course the cabin was deliberately depressurized, and the plane flown at altitude for long enough to deplete the oxygen generators for the cabin masks; then death follows shortly thereafter for those outside the cockpit.

The cockpit masks - the “rubber jungle” - are full face masks, not just nose cups, and are pressurized to PUSH air into the pilots’ lungs.

In the general cabin, the O2 generators just try hard to increase the O2 PPM to the point where you just MIGHT get enough 02 into your lungs to survive the emergency descent.

Thing is, at altitudes above 30-35,000 feet, the atmosphere is sooo thin, that even though the masks expel 02, there is little pressure to fill your lungs when your diaphragm tightens (ie you try to inhale). In a ‘normal’ depressurization in flight emergency, the pilot MUST descend to an altitude where there is enough ambient air pressure to fill your lungs. If indeed the cabin depressurized at 40K feet or so, hypoxia and suffocation would take less than 3 minutes once the cabin pressure dropped below about .5 atmospheres.

SO ... a sole pilot (or two pilots) could kill everyone but themselves via this method.

But sadly(?), the OCCAM’S RAZOR model points to a fire that screwed up a lot of systems serially.


17 posted on 07/01/2014 7:26:07 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: redgolum

Bush admitted we were in a war in 2001 right after 9/11. Since then the US has turned a blind eye to it.


18 posted on 07/01/2014 7:26:35 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: sevinufnine
An oil rig worker who claimed to have seen a fire in the sky on the night Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 disappeared has been fired, with police confirming his claims are being taken seriously. Read more at http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/06/09/10/45/oil-rig-worker-fired-after-mh370-claims#A6iFgJhdWsZ7I9lK.99
19 posted on 07/01/2014 7:28:30 AM PDT by wtd
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To: Blueflag

I hope you’re right about the fire. The thought of all those passengers being killed on purpose for either stealing the plane or simply making it vanish is worse than any accident.


20 posted on 07/01/2014 7:28:42 AM PDT by sevinufnine (A moderately bad man knows he is not very good. A thoroughly bad man thinks he's alright. C.S. Lewis)
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