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To: Olog-hai
Taken from your link: a primitive root; to manipulate, i.e. seize; chiefly to capture, wield, specifically, to overlay; figuratively, to use unwarrantably:--catch, handle, (lay, take) hold (on, over), stop, X surely, surprise, take.

I don't know how to break this to you, but that is rape.

You have proven my point. A man can CAPTURE, WEILD, OVERLAY, CATCH, SUPRISE, TAKE a virgin, and all he has to do is pay a bride price to her father (whose property she currently is) and marry her, unless she belongs to some other man.

There is no stigma to rape. You sully another man's property, you die. If that property went with you willingly, she dies too. If not, they cut her a break. That's as far as it goes.

That's Deuteronomy, and that's Islam. Face it.

311 posted on 05/05/2014 6:56:42 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady
So all “capture” methods are the same? Ignoring the meaning of the word is not going to help you. Even the English word “capture” has more than one sense:
1. to take by force or stratagem

2. to gain control of or exert influence over
Since the word taphas clearly has the meaning of manipulation, the method of capture is by stratagem—and seduction is a means of capture, clearly not of the same character as indicated by khazaq (taking by force/violence, hence rape).

I don’t know how to break it to you, but taphas has no indication of rape.
314 posted on 05/05/2014 7:05:32 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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