[daniel1212]

John Dewey, The Frankfurt School, and Saul Alinsky have had their way with us for a century and it has resulted in the exaltation of the collective over the individual....The whole thrust of the liberal criminal justice system is to eliminate the idea of guilt and culpability and substitute rehabilitation.

Thanks. It is part of the victim entitlement mentality described in Scripture. And you should like this: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/CauseEffect.html

[nathanbedford]

Thanks for that citation, it will no doubt prove a valuable resource.

The reference in it to Engle vs. Vitale takes me back to college days when I had to write a paper on the subject. That was in my inchoate pre-ACLU days when Justice Hugo Black was a hero. I excuse the waywardness of my youth pertaining to the subject of church and state to a pesky libertarian streak which has to some degree been thankfully mugged by reality.