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To: Secret Agent Man
if they do drugs there are victims, their kids, their families.

The same with drunks, but we don't make sure their families are destroyed, or at least suffer, by throwing alcohol users in prison and denying them access to Federal student aid, nor do we seize the assets of liquor store owners or folks suspected of having alcohol profits for selling booze.

The only sharp line I can see between legal psychoactive drugs (alcohol, nicotine and caffeine) and illegal ones is that the former were popular in Europe at the time of the American Founding, while the latter weren't. Sure some drugs are so evil in their effects on the user that trade in them (or giving them as gifts) should be kept illegal (crystal meth, extacy, "bath salts" and the nasty Russian concotion "krokodile" come readily to mind), as folks who sell them, even to willing buyers, or give them to others, are victimizing the customers.

But the attitude of "using drugs will ruin your life, and just to make sure, we'll ruin it for good with a criminal conviction and all kinds of legal disabilities if we catch you", trampling civil liberties with non-knock raids and property rights with forfeitures even on suspicion of being involved in the drug trade has only had the effect of giving the trade the the most ruthless and evil drug gangs, depriving the state of tax revenues on the trade, and filling prisons with folks whose crime was possessing more than some arbitrarily set weight or volume of some psychoactive substance which legislators decided indicated intent to sell at great expense to the taxpayer.

14 posted on 03/25/2014 7:20:28 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: The_Reader_David

where have you been? we do put drunk drivers in prison. companies fire alcoholics.

in prison all addicts go thru detox because they can’ t get alcohol or drugs. that is a helpful aspect of prison for these people. they have no choice but to get off whatever they’re on.


16 posted on 03/25/2014 7:23:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: The_Reader_David

no-knock raids are totally a different deal as swat was sold to people under false pretenses, as it was supposed to be used against drug houses and gangs, not the everyday solo individual. this is part of state dept pub 7277 freedom from war document to increase the us’ internal domestic security forces as the military is turned over more and more to global governance bodies to control. swat teams are the way they have accomplished this. the war on drugs was an excuse. at the same time it kept govt rolling in cash and assets. but that doesn’t mean undeserved awful people are in jail, or that certain terrible drugs shouldn’t be illegal.

most people can handle alcohol. can’ t say the same foir others. wew lose enoiugh people already to drunk, we don’t need to lose more to more potheads, crackheads, coke snifferes, meth-heads, speed feaks, heroin addicts or any other drug that gets you hooked quickly and soon becomes the only thing one gives a crap about.


17 posted on 03/25/2014 7:32:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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