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To: Leonard210
insisted that Apple didn’t build factories in China

Apple built factories in China? Seriously? Hmmm... and al along, I just thought it was Foxconn and the other long-standing Chinese-owned factories that have expanded many times as they have taken on the contracts for pretty much EVERY major computer maker in the world...

Seriously - which factories did Apple build?

The Facts are not hard to chase down - and if you would take a couple of seconds to simply search for it, you would find it. Apple, just like so many other "manufacturers" contract with companies in China to produce most of their goods. The difference with Apple (again - VERY easy to track this down) is that they are one of, if not THE ONLY company that sets their standards way above eery other maker in regards to worker conditions, worker pay, and quality expectations. It is all in the Apple contracts.

you can't make this stuff up..."

You just did... pulled it out of your self righteous, pompous A$$ right along with the rest of your trolling garbage.

OH - and were you aware that the latest Mac Pro Towers are made in the USA?

252 posted on 04/26/2014 8:38:04 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: TheBattman

I did clarify at the end.

“Chinese Factories: Naturally occurring structures spontaneously formed in Chinese cities and discovered by Apple in the 1990’s which they repurposed to accommodate the manufacture of electronic devices.”

Is that better?


253 posted on 04/26/2014 11:43:44 PM PDT by Leonard210 (Pro-life Creationist, Constitutional Federalist, Deprogrammed Apple Flunky)
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To: TheBattman

“The difference with Apple (again - VERY easy to track this down) is that they are one of, if not THE ONLY company that sets their standards way above eery other maker in regards to worker conditions, worker pay, and quality expectations. It is all in the Apple contracts.”

That’s verbatim what Ludwig said. Do you have some of those “primary sources” that back this up, cause I’ve been researching for a month and you guys are the only ones making that claim.


254 posted on 04/26/2014 11:48:53 PM PDT by Leonard210 (Pro-life Creationist, Constitutional Federalist, Deprogrammed Apple Flunky)
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To: TheBattman

“Apple built factories in China? Seriously? Hmmm... and al along, I just thought it was Foxconn and the other long-standing Chinese-owned factories that have expanded many times as they have taken on the contracts for pretty much EVERY major computer maker in the world...”

Steve Jobs, “described how easy it was to build a factory in China, and said that it was almost impossible to do so these days in America, largely because of regulations and unnecessary costs.” Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson, Chapter Forty-One, Round Three, The Twilight Struggle, President Obama


255 posted on 04/26/2014 11:56:39 PM PDT by Leonard210 (Pro-life Creationist, Constitutional Federalist, Deprogrammed Apple Flunky)
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To: TheBattman

“OH - and were you aware that the latest Mac Pro Towers are made in the USA?”

Yes, I heard that. And I heard it was Foxconn who managed the building also. It’s very different from a company who builds stuff and then calls Apple and asks them if they want space?

“McDonalds doesn’t build fast food restaurants. Did you know that? Sure you did. Parkway Construction, Yorkon, Wolgast and others build restaurants for McDonalds. But to assume that McDonalds isn’t involved in every aspect of the building process is beyond rational thought. It would be accurate to say, as any classically trained economist might, that McDonalds builds restaurants in 118 countries. They don’t just spring up and McDonalds spots them on Google Maps. Do they?

Foxconn wasn’t just building a bunch of factories and cold calling American companies when they got Steve Jobs. “Hey Stevie, we have this empty factory just sitting here and were wondering if you could use 700,000 workers to build something. An “i” what? iPhone? Sure, we can do that, send the specs and we’ll get right on it!”

You don’t allow a company like Foxconn to build a factory to their own specs and then call you when it’s done, but that’s what you would have to envision if Apple wasn’t involved in every aspect of the buildings design and construction. Did Foxconn act as contractor? Sure. Foxconn or any number of others. Steve Jobs knew the details and was able to describe the process to Barack Obama.

Apple builds factories, through its contractors, in China. Deal with it.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3134377/posts?page=208#208


256 posted on 04/27/2014 12:00:38 AM PDT by Leonard210 (Pro-life Creationist, Constitutional Federalist, Deprogrammed Apple Flunky)
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To: TheBattman; Secret Agent Man; Swordmaker

“...were you aware that the latest Mac Pro Towers are made in the USA”

It’s a pretty amazing feat. Just three years ago, in 2011, Steve Jobs told President Barack Obama that it was “almost impossible” to build a factory in America. Steve dies and viola! An impossibility prior to Barack Obama’s second term is now a reality.

Saint Steven said it was teachers, and regulations, and unnecessary costs, and schools, and bad karma, and squirrels that kept Apple from building factories in America. Well now there’s even a video of the factory that couldn’t be built in America. Austin Texas no less!

Apple - Making the all-new Mac Pro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbWOQWw1wkM

It’s a short video that displays the power of spontaneous generation of manufacturing facilities. A phenomena which had previously been restricted to Asian countries. Apple was building an operations facility in Austin when someone noticed the factory developing on their drive in to work.

Apple quickly notified Flextronics and asked if they could claim and manage the facility for Apple. So Flextronics rather than Foxconn, as was originally speculated, is now making Mac Pro Towers without any input from Apple. My, how the world has changed. What was impossible to do just months ago is already being done.

So it seems it was just Steve Jobs that was full of bullfish...oh, and all the Apple apologists, like, well, you guys.

And we’re back at the point that started this branch of the thread when I agreed with Secret Agent Man and made Swordmaker all frothy.

“Good product/bad product, great debate material, but Apple financially supports the left and all that entails. So do lots of other companies, especially tech companies, but then why not just say Apple is run by a bunch of dicks but they make products I like?” from http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3134377/posts?page=22#22


257 posted on 04/27/2014 12:54:06 PM PDT by Leonard210 (Pro-life Creationist, Constitutional Federalist, Deprogrammed Apple Flunky)
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