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If You Wanted To Steal A Boeing 777, Here's How You'd Do It
Business Insider ^ | 03/14/2014 | Jeff Wise, Slate

Posted on 03/14/2014 11:14:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Whenever a plane goes down, experienced air craft investigators look at the general circumstances and mentally draw up a list of the most likely causes — not to leap to conclusions, but to prioritize lines of enquiry and organize competing hypotheses.

As information comes in, it should be possible to eliminate those hypotheses one by one until at last a full understanding of the circumstances remains. The goal is to make sure that the problem will never again bring down an airliner.

This philosophy works: Year by year, fewer commercial airliners are lost to accidents.

The downside is that, as likely sources of aircraft accidents are eliminated, what’s left behind are increasingly arcane and bizarre, once-in-a-million combinations of bad luck, incompetence, and malice. And the longer we go without any significant clues regarding Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the more likely that its true cause will fall into that category.

For instance? Some airline pilots have begun to speculate that one of the flight crew might have intentionally caused the plane to disappear and flown off with it to an undisclosed location. This line of speculation, outlandish as it may sound, was only bolstered when it was reported Wednesday that investigators were actively pursuing the possibility that the plane had been diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose.”

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: boeing777; hijacking; iran; malaysia; malaysianairlines; mh370; waronterror
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To: SeekAndFind

Does the plane have tech that certain countries want that can’t be obtained any other way except to hijack it, crash it or just make it disappear?


21 posted on 03/14/2014 11:38:31 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: GraceG

The existence of portable O2 devices for the flight attendants means that any/everyone who knows about them and how to use them has to be taken out first.

Tall order that, unless the flight attendants are in on it too.


22 posted on 03/14/2014 11:39:57 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: SeekAndFind; grobdriver
the article fails to mention the 239 passengers. What do you do with them?

Serious? You steal and use it as a bomb, to try and kill thousands, but what do we do with these 200+ other people?

23 posted on 03/14/2014 11:42:58 AM PDT by xone
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To: xone
You have a point if the intent of the theft is to use it as a guided missile.
24 posted on 03/14/2014 11:44:53 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Boogieman
where you would have to do something with all the passengers.

C'mon man.

25 posted on 03/14/2014 11:46:11 AM PDT by xone
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To: Dallas59

Knowledge ?

20 people on that flight worked for one company.


26 posted on 03/14/2014 11:46:22 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Iran or N. Korea would think that at 777 is a great way to deliver a nuke. Could be used as an EMP or to destroy a city sometime in the future when this event will have been mostly forgotten.


27 posted on 03/14/2014 11:48:18 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What about the part of brutally killing 239 people?


28 posted on 03/14/2014 11:48:25 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: mbarker12474
My hunch is that:

— U.S. defense satellite monitors know where the flight went down or did whatever it did. The president also knows.

That's one of the more worrisome aspects. It's not like America has a president loyal to Americans, or to Western Civilization in general.

29 posted on 03/14/2014 11:48:53 AM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: xone

Serious? You steal and use it as a bomb, to try and kill thousands, but what do we do with these 200+ other people?
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Yeah, bumping off 200+ plus people is no biggie if you’re planning on using a 777 as a giant cruise missile to kill thousands of others.

It may seem outlandish - seriously, this is SPECTRE-level hijinks - but it’s actually less outlandish than other possibilities, to be sure.


30 posted on 03/14/2014 11:49:40 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: tanknetter

[ The existence of portable O2 devices for the flight attendants means that any/everyone who knows about them and how to use them has to be taken out first.

Tall order that, unless the flight attendants are in on it too. ]

Simple the pilot has a record of inviting the flight attendents to the cockpit...

Invite them into the cockpit, lock the door and slith their throats, of there is more than two do it, then call to have the remaining come back to the cockpit and do it again...

They could have been conditioning the flight attendents to come into the cockpit over the years so they could have flown several times with the same attendents that know this captyain does this thing, then all of a sudden (noise that a person makes when moving their hand in a cutting motion across the throat)


31 posted on 03/14/2014 11:50:48 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Mannaggia l'America
Let me call in a buddy of mine and see how much this thing is worth....

Expert says it is worth $300 million. Rick buys it for a grand. Afterword, customer says he's disappointed, but at least he'll be able to take his wife out for a nice dinner in Vegas and maybe play some blackjack.
32 posted on 03/14/2014 11:52:24 AM PDT by needmorePaine
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To: BuffaloJack

I would imagine that there are few places that a 777 could land at in that part of the world that is not an international airport. It should not be difficult to search any place that could handle such a landing in the next month or so.

If this plane is going to be used in a terrorist attack, it will happen in the next week or so.


33 posted on 03/14/2014 11:54:04 AM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: GraceG

Both pilots are/were muslims. Raise that big red flag even higher.


34 posted on 03/14/2014 11:57:57 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Gaffer

The...Sell it idea. ..is just stupid. .where the hell in the world are you going to use it without everybody finding out its this jet? Unknown 777 200 with no history do not just show up on the market..a plane like this has to have its paper trail to be allowed to fly in and out of any country..so unless its going to fly inside one country and that one country is in on the theft. .you not going anywhere. .same for any major parts..that all have serial numbers they all have to have a paper trail history to be of any use steal something like this and its only value is scrap at a black market discount...not worth the effort it must of took to set up this operation to steal in first place.. If the plane was stolen it was taken for some one shot use later or they wanted someone or some thing/cargo on the plane


35 posted on 03/14/2014 12:00:17 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: mbarker12474

My guess is US sponsored hijacking. The jet is most likely at Diego Garcia. Check out Cabaltimes.com.
Will the jet be loaded with a nuke to create a false flag?
Another guess......YES!


36 posted on 03/14/2014 12:03:21 PM PDT by free from tyranny
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To: GraceG
You don’t really need extra O2 at 30,000ft to stay alive but you do need it to stay awake.

Even with supplemental oxygen from the overhead drop-down masks, at 30,000 feet most passengers would be unconscious in a few minutes. Those masks don't flow much oxygen anyway (continuous low flow). It's only intended to keep them alive until the airplane can get down to a safer cabin altitude.

37 posted on 03/14/2014 12:03:23 PM PDT by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Boogieman
* Sell it. There’s an active market for used 777s.”

There seems to be a missing step there, where you would have to do something with all the passengers.

There's an active market for used passengers, too - especially in Muslim countries.

But I'm still going with the "Shot down by the MAF to stave off a potential suicide attack - but world governments shut up about it until the black boxes prove it" theory. It fits the available evidence better.

38 posted on 03/14/2014 12:08:00 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: SeekAndFind

You’re the Co-Pilot.

*) Lock the Pilot out of the cabin while he’s using the head.

*) Switch off ADS-B/Transponder/ACARS

*) Depressurize the cabin (maybe in concert with a steep ascent or dive)

*) After some time, repressurize and continue on...

So, what about the part of ACARS that sends engine data to Rolls Royce. Can that be turned off? If so, good for the co-pilot in this scenario. If not, it will send report to RR upon landing, or report nothing if the aircraft crashes.

(Also, the INMARSAT pings may continue regardless?)

Does this scenario work?


39 posted on 03/14/2014 12:19:10 PM PDT by Sax
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To: Sax

Is it that simple for someone locked in the cockpit to kill everyone on board?


40 posted on 03/14/2014 12:23:20 PM PDT by Sax
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