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To: ChiefJayStrongbow

This will never happen in the Catholic church. It has already been debunked. The Pope always gives interviews in Italian and the media completely twists his message into something else.

The conversation didn’t have anything to do with homosexuals and the Pope was discussing the fact that some people (heterosexuals) don’t get married because they are too poor, or differences in cultures, so we shouldn’t necessarily consider those people as “living in sin” if they are for all intents and purposes devoted to each other and family for life. That’s it. There was no discussion about homosexuals.

This may come as a surprise for some FReepers, The media LIES!


56 posted on 03/10/2014 2:13:42 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: mgist
The conversation didn’t have anything to do with homosexuals and the Pope was discussing the fact that some people (heterosexuals) don’t get married because they are too poor, or differences in cultures, so we shouldn’t necessarily consider those people as “living in sin” if they are for all intents and purposes devoted to each other and family for life. That’s it. There was no discussion about homosexuals.

The article points out the Pope was addressing civil unions, all of them. He did say there are a variety. He did not expound on what he meant by "variety." However, given your above explanation, one would conclude the Pope is fine with a man and woman living together out of wed-lock. I thought the Catholic church condemned such arrangements. Perhaps the Pope could have said "for widows/widowers living together to make ends meet and join in civil unions, the church can make exceptions." But Pope Francis did not say that and did not even imply that. He could have, but he left the door open for all the interpret. Plus we know civil unions are mostly used by homosexuals. My point? Why even address the issue.

63 posted on 03/10/2014 2:34:45 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: mgist

From the Meet the Press webpage:

Cardinal Dolan: Pope Francis Wants Church to Study Gay Unions

By Tom Curry

Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York said Sunday that Pope Francis believes the Catholic Church needs to examine why some states are choosing to legalize civil unions of gay couples. But the pontiff has not expressed approval of such unions, Dolan said.

“He didn’t come right out and say he was for them,” Dolan said in an exclusive interview on NBC’s Meet the Press. What the pope has said, according to Dolan, is that church leaders need to “look into it and see the reasons that have driven them…. Rather than quickly condemn them… let’s just ask the questions as to why that has appealed to certain people….”

http://www.nbcnews.com/#/meet-the-press/cardinal-dolan-pope-francis-wants-church-study-gay-unions-n48236

Context is gay civil unions. Dolan says the Pope did not endorse them. The door is wide open...


65 posted on 03/10/2014 2:39:50 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: mgist

some people (heterosexuals) don’t get married because they are too poor, or differences in cultures, so we shouldn’t necessarily consider those people as “living in sin”


Of course they are living in sin, however so is anyone that hasn’t been “born again” so we all are no different from them. The people that are made right are on so because they believe Jesus and have been “born of the Spirit”.

-JS


67 posted on 03/10/2014 2:42:29 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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