Posted on 03/02/2014 9:13:24 AM PST by ckilmer
Edited on 03/02/2014 3:00:55 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]
The Origins and Role of Same-Sex Relations in Human Societies
By James Neill
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Bernal Diaz del Castillo, who accompanied the conquistador Hernan Cortez on his conquest of Mexico in 1519, commented frequently on the widespread homosexual behavior they encountered. Cortez, in his first report to Emperor Charles V, wrote that the Indians of Mexico “are all sodomites and have recourse to that abominable sin.” Another writer, Lopez de Gomara, called the Indians “ sodomite like no other generation of men.” Father Pierre de Gand found sodomy to be virtually universal among the Aztecs. Bernal Diaz described numerous male prostitutes among the Aztecs, as well as unmarried temple priests engaging in sodomy. Montezuma, the Aztec god-king, was reported to have had sexual relations with young warriors who were about to be ritually sacrificed. There was even an Aztec god, Xochipili, who was the patron of homosexuality and male prostitution. Bartolome de las Casas reported that Mayan parents supplied their adolescent sons with young males to use as sexual partners before marriage. Other missionaries also reported widespread homosexuality among the Mayans. Pedro Cieza de Leon, in his “Chronicles of Peru,” described sodomy as among the worst sins of the people there.
In the high cultures of Mexico and Peru the Spanish found a rich tradition of erotic art, much of it depicting homosexual activity. Bernal Diaz, while exploring the coast of Yucatan in 1517, wrote of discovering numerous clay figurines in which “the Indians seemed to be engaged in sodomy, one with the other.” Fernandez de Oviedo, a royal chronicler, wrote of an expedition to an island off the Yucatan coast by Diego Velazquez, who reported entering a Mayan temple and being shocked to see a large wooden statue of two males engaged in intercourse. Ovida himself saw some of the erotic art work in Panama in 1515, which he described: “In some parts of these Indies, they carry as a jewel a man mounted upon another in that diabolic and nefarious act of Sodom, made in gold relief. I saw one these jewels of the devil, twenty pesos gold in weight...I broke it down with a hammer and smashed it under my own hand.” Most appalling to the Spanish was that homosexuality was frequently associated with cross-dressing, and that these practices often had religious connotations. Cieza de Leon wrote in disgust of the customs he witness in the temples of Peru.
The devil introduced this vice [sodomy] under a kind of cloak of sanctity, and in each important temple or house of worship they have a man or two, or more, depending on the idol, who go dressed in women’s attire from the time they are children... With these, almost like a rite, and ceremony, on feast [days] and holidays they have carnal, foul intercourse, especially the chiefs and headmen...The devil held such sway in this land that, not satisfied with making them fall into so great sin, he made them believe that this vice was a kind of holiness and religion.
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If you’ll look at your source in context, you’ll notice that it doesn’t say much that’s different than what I just showed you....
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alynna_Kasmira/Homosexuality_in_Mexico#The_Mexica
The Maya
Homoerotic Maya painting on the walls of the caves of Naj Tunich (Petén, Guatemala).
The Maya were relatively tolerant of homosexuality. It is known that there were orgies among the Maya that included homosexual sex, but for sodomy you would be condemned to death in a fiery furnace.[4][7]
Mayan society considered homosexuality preferable to premarital heterosexual sex, so the nobles got sexual slaves for their children.[4]
The Mexica
The Mexica or Aztecs were extremely intolerant of homosexuality, even though some of their public rituals had homoerotic overtones. Thus, for example, they worshipped the goddess Xochiquétzal, who reduced her masculine appearance, with the name of Xochipilli, and protected male prostitution and homosexuality. The mythical history of the Aztec people was divided into four “worlds”, of which the previous had been “an easy, weak life, of sodomy, perversion, of the dance of the flowers and of adoration to Xochiquétzal”, in which the “masculine virtues of war, management and wisdom” were forgotten.[8] It is possible that this story made reference to the Toltecs.[4] The author Richard Texler, in his book Sex and the Conquest, stated that the Aztecs converted some of the conquered enemies into sex slaves, following the metaphor that penetration is a sign of power.[9]
Mexica law punished sodomy with the gallows, impalement for the active homosexual, extraction of the entrails through the anal orifice for the passive homosexual, and death by garrote for the lesbians.[7]
Some authors state that these strict laws were not used in practice and that homosexuals were relatively free. For example, they cite Spanish chronicles that speak of widespread sodomy that included children of up to 6 years or of children dressed like women to practice prostitution. The chronicles also speak of religious acts in which sodomy was practiced.[10]
The existence of lesbianism is testified to by the Nahuatl word “patlacheh”, which designates a woman who carries out masculine activities, including the penetration of other women, as revealed in the General history of the matters of New Spain by Bernardino de Sahagún.[8]
It needs to be noted that many codices written by the Mexica on this subject have been tempered with and/or destroyed by the Spanish.
The author Richard Texler, in his book Sex and the Conquest, stated that the Aztecs converted some of the conquered enemies into sex slaves, following the metaphor that penetration is a sign of power.
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Another thing you should be aware of is that this pattern is pretty similiar to the middle east of 2nd millenium bc. They didn’t really distinguish between the male and female. The difference was between the penetrater and the penetratee.
The big innovation of the early hebrews was to make the distinction rather between male and female.
Dumb ass and hell are what you believe to be the words of drunken sailers?
You may wish to start opening your Bible a bit more there Ansel12.
Yeah, that’s right.
Aha! :^)
It gets me how people will cuss like drunken sailors on a public forum while talking about Christ and the decay of the culture, and then defend it in the name of God and the Bible.
Ansel12, what I’m hearing is that a lot of things get you.
Have you seen the word hell in the Bible or not?
Are you saying the Bible was written by drunken sailers? Please keep me informed as you figure this out for yourself with a little help.
See post 107, and examine your personal exploitation of the Bible to defend your inappropriate behavior.
Ansel12, I will leave you to live your perfect life now.
Take care...
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