If Fuddy was killed, the killer was on the plane.
Posted on 02/21/2014 2:39:18 PM PST by butterdezillion
But BZ wasn’t claiming to see a rebreather in the photos - she was claiming to see a bright yellow conventional scuba tank. Which I believe is what started her off on the whole murdering diver thing in the first place. She is still obsessing about how the yellow can’t be the sole of a shoe, when everyone else can see that’s exactly what it is.
But whenever proved wrong, she just moves the goalposts, or asks more asinine questions “well what do YOU see?”. I see a nutter with too much time on he rhands. It’s a fascinating example of confirmation bias in extreme.
No I haven’t and I doubt anybody but you ever will. Your theory is nuts and nobody feels like indulging it here any more. Even the mods have told you it’s nuts. Who would you believe as a matter of interest?
That’s why it’s important to look at context and multiple frames if possible. And I’ve posted multiple frames.
There is something cylindrical there in 3 different images, and it appears to have some kind of tube or handle at the top and 2 smaller tubes that can be seen at the bottom. Does that look like anything you’ve seen?
There also seems to be something white with defined angles, like I’ve seen with pvc pipes. Doesn’t look like a sock to me, but then maybe my socks are just too bland. lol
Yes, it would tell us a lot to know which freeper has this very concerned friend who is an expert at diving but isn’t aware of rebreathers and has a philosophy of not addressing specific content unless he agrees with the end conclusion that could be supported...
I agree, I don’t buy a waiting frogman in the water below a ditching plane. I just wanted to point out for future reference that a frogman assassin would NOT be wearing an O/C bottle on his back. And a frogman assassin would have nothing yellow on him.
If Fuddy was killed (note I say IF IF IF IF) then her killer was on the plane with her when it ditched.
There was no frogman.
If Fuddy was killed, the killer was on the plane.
The guy who took the pictures said he turned his camera back on after trouble was indicated, but his own video shows videotape of the passengers acting like they’re out for a Sunday stroll, footloose and fancy free, not a care in the world.
Why did he do that?
Oh, that’s right. You don’t address content. All you do is Alinsky. Because you are so very “concerned” for my “credibility”.
As to what is or isn’t there, all we’ve seen thus far is a small portion of what shows up above the surface. Where do you get off, claiming all the things that AREN’T there, just because you haven’t seen them (yet)?
Again I ask: How many times have you looked at that footage at 1/8th speed - BEFORE ABC pixelated the mp4 file?
These were not professionals, I’d bet. There wouldn’t be the yellow if it was professionals. And there are 2 different kinds of yellow - the clear, bright yellow associated with the shiny black outlines, and the pale yellow stripes (that sort of look like glimmers of sunlight on the waves when you’re not looking closely), that, when that shape turns around to the other side, looks very much like a black man in a dark gray hoodie, with a light-colored tube in the nose area.
Show me the post where I ever claimed that anything in these photos is ANYTHING - much less something so specific as “a bright yellow conventional scuba tank”.
Give me a link to the post and copy my exact words.
Who said I wasn’t aware of rebreathers? You just make stuff up to suit your story. In fact I answered that of course I was aware of them, but as your theory rested on a yellow air tank, a rebreather was entirely irrelevant.
I do address content - I just say almost all the content you raise is irrelevant. If you want to know what the cameraman did - ask him. What’s the point of speculating here? But stop telling us everything you don’t fully understand is evidence of a conspiracy, because frankly I don’t see anyone here buying it, and you are starting to look very foolish.
Was there someone wearing black with yellow equipment in the water close to Fuddy? I’ve never said there was a frogman and I don’t believe Fuddy was killed.
When did I ever say my theory rested on a yellow air tank? You ASSUMED it rested on a yellow air tank, which suggested to me that you don’t know about rebreathers. Which seems to be the impression that Travis had as well, because he corrected you to make sure you knew that you don’t have to have a tank.
You are a gnat around my eyes. You have contributed nothing to this conversation except sound and fury, like somebody sputtering in desperation rather than speaking clearly.
“Now put the sole so you can see the entire oval shape made by it? When you are able to see that shape, where would the person wearing the shoe have to be?”
Humans have these little things called “ankles”. They allow a foot to swivel around to many angles, quite independent of which direction the rest of your body is facing.
No, I have simply disagreed with you, which you seem to find unacceptable. Not really the reaction one would expect of a humble researcher just trying to get at the truth.
So, if your theory isn’t that the yellow is a tank - and I think it is pretty clear from your dull youtube clip and everything else that that is what you are getting at - can you please explain why you are so obsessed with the yellow shoe?
And if the mystery assasin waiting in the water is wearing a rebreather, where pretty please is his regulator and mask?
Butter - why is it that you insist on the presence of a diver, yet the only people with experience of diving on this thread have all told you that you are wrong? And many I presume are people you would ordinarily trust. This is the problem with confirmation bias - you really need to listen to people that know more than you. Like with the microsoft incident - just open your mind to the possibility that you could be wrong.
“if something happened to cause the 2 windows between the wing and the door to come UP out of the water after Puentes’ image showed them fully submerged. “
How about the weight of the three people standing on the door step and sitting on the wing. Or that the tail section would be essentially a sealed compartment and all the engine weight was in the front submerged portion.
Here are three shots in sequence from the video:
Placemarker.
Tell you what. You take a photo of your leg with the ankle bending so that what the camera sees matches what is in that photo - with the entire oval of the sole seen by the camera and your leg and head in the position being claimed for Fuddy.
Disclaimer: I am not responsible for any medical bills incurred in the making of that photo. lol
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