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To: Alamo-Girl; babygene

That would suggest that the INFORMATION moves much faster than the speed of light. I’m not quite convinced that means that MATTER or SPace (which includes Matter) or Space*Time moves faster than light. It suggests that “tachyons” are completely massless and also bound to eachother within photons, and perhaps within other particles or physical systems.
***The modern analogy is computer systems. They push electrons all over the place Really FAST but all of them at slightly less than the speed of light.

If we were to extend our current technology capability of pushing electrons over millions of pathways so quickly, one would be tempted that we could push CARS that fast across VAST DISTANCES. But the analogy breaks down quickly due to mass.

Electrons have negligible mass. If we were to expand an electron to the size of a the earth, its mass would still be less than an amoeba. Pushing an amoeba weight a hundred miles is no big feat in our society. No doubt, all of us could see the potential for development here, if we had materials as strong as steel that weighed as much as an amoeba.

But pushing other things that have mass is a different story. Pushing a small weight like a hundred kilos of water has its definite limits.

INFORMATION is massless. Other things have mass.
Pushing MASS faster than light does not make sense, but pushing INFORMATION faster than light certainly does.

I recall that some cosmologists posit that in the inflationary phase, mass wasn’t mass yet. Maybe the mass was just congealed information, too slow to catch up with the uncongealed racehorse-fast-info that established the boundaries of our universe.


169 posted on 02/23/2014 9:19:51 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo; betty boop; TXnMA
I intentionally avoided commenting on your remarks about information because I am extremely biased in favor of the original meaning of the term as it was defined by Claude Shannon (father of Information Theory, a branch of Math) in his Mathematical Theory of Communication.

There the term "information" means the reduction of uncertainty in the receiver as it moves from a before state to an after state. It is not the message being sent but the successful communication of it.

Some branches of science have plucked the term "information" from its pure meaning in math to describe physical phenomena. That usage should more accurately be called "physical information" and to me is indistinguishable from determinism per se.

Photons are massless. They travel at the speed of light. Indeed, they travel a "null path." For the observer-photon, no time elapses at all.

A photon sent by a star when it was a billion miles away may arrive on earth 11 billion years later simply because space/time was expanding while the photon was en route. Indeed, many of the stars we observe no longer exist.

170 posted on 02/23/2014 9:41:00 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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