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To: Mr Rogers
So...why should I need to do that crap?

You don't. Learn the interface. That's your alternative.

Windows 7 already works fine for me, without modifications.

Then keep using it, no one's stopping you or forcing you to change.

In what sense did MS not take a good interface and make it worse?

No one's arguing that point.

As for slow ass Windows 7: many of us don’t do games. For surfing the Internet, typing reports or reviewing documents, 7 is more than fast enough.

Then keep using it, no one's forcing you to change, Windows 7 is still fully supported by MS. I simply pointed out that Windows 8 is MUCH faster and MUCH more efficient in its use of resources than Windows 7. I've benchmarked both, as have other online reputable websites which have confirmed my own findings. For me and how I use my computer, that speed and efficient use of resources is important. Not just for gaming, also for Virtualization, home automation, and some of the amateur radio programs I run to control my equipment as well as other tasks I use my computer for.

Unlike others on here who've never looked at it or tried Windows 8 for themselves who sit on here and whine all day that their FIFTEEN YEAR OLD OS is going unsupported, the rest of the world has moved on to Windows 7 or Windows 8. (Some have moved on to Ubuntu or Linux Mint too, fine OS' in their own right which I also use.) Every time I read about someone complaining about Windows 8's UI as being the reason they won't upgrade I have to laugh. They're either woefully ignorant of the options that are out there to either modify Windows 8 quickly and easily to make it look like Windows 7 or even XP! or they're simply unwilling to change under any circumstance.

Windows XP has become the Model-T of Operating Systems. It's fifteen years old (or older, for those of us that ran the Beta..) and requires constant patching because of its security holes. How long must Microsoft keep patching a 15 year old OS? That's like forcing Ford, GM, etc.. to warranty their drive trains for 15 years and perform all repairs free of charge. Simply ridiculous.

Would it really have been that hard for MS to figure out than a lot of folks were HAPPY with XP & 7, and to at least give them a choice on initial startup on which interface they wanted? They could even have a section in the start menu - and getting rid of that was REALLY stupid - that allowed those who wanted no start button to choose THAT as an option.

Not a point I think alot of folks are arguing. I was among the first on FR to post about MS making a huge mistake mixing and matching UI metaphors and eliminating the Start Button from the Desktop. Microsoft however thinks "One interface across all devices" is a key to their ongoing success. Personally I think that's a stupid direction -- trying to make a desktop look/act like a tablet. If I'm on my desktop I'm doing WORK. I don't want to take my hands off my keyboard to touch a computer screen to perform an action. That's just silly, and it makes a mess of my computer screen.

Alternatively, if I'm on my tablet (iOS, Droid or MS) I want the interface to be touch centric without having to use an onscreen or separate/bluetooth keyboard as input. Since NONE of the tablets (iOS, Droid or MS) eliminate the need to type input (try sending email on one without using the onscreen keyboard....) my tablets are limited to consuming content or doing workflow based approvals for my job. Fine for viewing and pressing an "approve" button, not fine for composing emails beyond a sentence or two, tops.

In closing, I think there's a reason Apple kept its desktop and tablet OS' separate - they knew the limitations of the two different OS' and the use cases for both. Microsoft clearly hasn't learned that lesson.

I suspect they'll figure it out in Windows 9.

46 posted on 02/15/2014 5:06:07 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

“Then keep using it, no one’s stopping you or forcing you to change.”

Hmmmm...there are not a huge number of cheap computers for sale with Windows 7.

I’ve been using computers since the days of punch cards. Why shouldn’t a major company give customers the option of whatever interface they like best - which, I’ll admit, is NOT punchcards?

“I’ve not had a single complaint or question from them since moving them to Linux Mint. “

I might try it, but it won’t change the ‘sales’ for MS since MS sales are based on sales of new computers. There just hasn’t been a big rush of people wanting to upgrade from 7 to 8, or from XP to 8.

It reminds me of razor blades. Gillette has been pushing more and more blades/cartridge, at greater and greater expense, to justify buying their patented ‘system’ - although a Gillette Atra with cartridges that cost under 20 cents each gives a better shave. But Gillette has an advertising budget, and the truth does not...


49 posted on 02/15/2014 7:38:38 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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