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To: mdmathis6

“Genesis 6 makes the creation story of the first 3 chapters come alive for me. It depicts outright interference by rogue “spiritual” elements which caused great violence and destruction upon the Earth. It really is a depiction of genomic interference from outside entities...the war of Satan’s seed against the seed of Eve. The first 3 chapters begin making a lot of sense when viewed thru the lens of Genesis 6.”

I don’t have much problem with this line of thinking. It is really the plainest reading of the text, especially once you take into account related passages from other books of the Bible. The problem I have, though, with your previous post, is that you are going down the materialist rabbit hole, trying to “explain away” things that are described as miraculous by attributing them to natural causes.

So, instead of God opening the firmament and fountains of the deep to cause a flood, you posit that a comet could have caused something that appeared to mortal men how it was described in Genesis. This casts doubt on two different aspects of the Bible.

First, it contradicts the divine authorship of the book. After all, God, if He was the author, would not be constrained by a human perspective, and would know the difference between a comet impact and a supernaturally caused deluge. So, if the author made a mistake and attributed the wrong cause, the author could not be God.

Second, by seeking to explain the miraculous events with naturalist causes, you cast doubt on every miraculous event in the Bible. Why, if the flood is “too miraculous” to believe, as written, is the incarnation of Christ not “too miraculous”, or Christ’s resurrection “too miraculous”? There’s no way to close that door behind just Genesis, once you have opened it.


128 posted on 02/05/2014 3:53:17 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Oh no, I believe in the miraculous...the binding of divine spirit to flesh and God breathing that flesh into a living soul.

I didn’t post the comet posting...God said he was going to destroy the Earth and I take it he did. The other stuff about Atlantis and stuff like that is speculation. I go for the plainest reading....God set 120 years from the time he first purposed to destroy the Earth and to help prepare Noah. The Bible says “God caused”. That’s good enough for me...whether comets or by the direct power of his word. God did it! I;m very comfortable with saying that. The fountains of the deep were opened up...God did that!

God “prepared a big fish” to swallow Jonah...got no problem with the notion God’s direct input into his matter universe.

His biggest intervention was to come as God in Flesh...Jesus Christ!


153 posted on 02/05/2014 8:27:17 PM PST by mdmathis6 (American Christians can help America best by remembering that we are Heaven's citizens first!)
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To: Boogieman

One other point....Elijah was said to have observed an Earthquake...but God wasn’t in the Earthquake...rather he spoke to Elijah in a still small voice.

“Not by might or by power , but by My spirit says the Lord”. States another passage.

“God touches the mountains and they smoke.” Pompeii and Herculanum were very corrupt cities(think Sodom and Gomorrah), perhaps more so than Rome and were fairly dominant sea cities on the Atlantic coach...strategic both in location as well as a Chronological potential for trouble over time/and history. I can’t escape the notion that the Vesuvious eruption was not just a tragic phenomena of random natural processes.

I am quite open to the notion of direct intervention by God thru nature, or directly by his Spirit in the power of His spoken word. I recognize the danger of “naturalizing: biblical judments and phenomena for it may cause some trivialize God or even deny that God has any part of existence at all. I will never do that.


155 posted on 02/05/2014 8:46:30 PM PST by mdmathis6 (American Christians can help America best by remembering that we are Heaven's citizens first!)
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