Posted on 02/02/2014 8:26:55 AM PST by B4Ranch
“Do it gradually and Americans will accept all forms of tyranny as law - Patriot Act, NSA, de-facto militarised police forces”
I would say do it gradually and some Americans will accept it. Millions are not accepting it and we are headed for a major conflict over it.
Anarchy only works in a vacuum. Much like Libertarianism, it ignores external threats. By refusing to establish a common protectorate, you pretty much guarantee some neighboring fiefdom will be governing you. Some form of cooperative is necessary, and it will need some sort of ground rules and a chain of command to function - and that means government.
And I may get flamed for mentioning this of FR, but any form of governance that allows large hereditary estates to form will guarantee despotic rule.
I’m a big fan of “less-archy”. Other than common defense, I can’t think of a darned thing government is good for besides allowing entrenched aristocracies to form and keeping them in power.
Yeah, right.
If there are “millions” not accepting it, we’d have seen armed revolts by them circa 2001-2, if not before.
The truth is that the majority have had it shoved into them lying down, and they’ve bent and rolled over to comply.
In the absence of a structured, dedicated, full-time military and police force pooling in resources from a widely cast tax net, the raiders know they just need to bide time for the right moment. And that said, there will be an endless supply of raiders to take the place of the ones destroyed, since the risk-to-payback ratio will be low, sans the dedicated, full-time force created to counter them.
Revolts don’t just happen. It builds slowly over decades until finally there is an incident that is a step too far. Barry has been pushing that envelope for 5 years. He just keeps poking the bear.
Looked at several of the links. These aren’t examples of anarchic societies, they’re examples of clan-based rather than state societies.
The two things are very different.
The author’s penchant seems to be for classifying any society without a formal legal system as anarchy. I very much doubt those who lived in these societies would have agreed.
Yeah, and if the triggers happening one after the other over the course of two decades isn’t enough to usher in revolt, then it’s not likely to happen any time soon.
I learned a lot from this video:
What Anarchy Isn’t:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMoPBDz5ycA&feature=youtu.be
It took over twenty years for the Revolutionary war to break out. And when it did about 65% of the population were agains’t it and wanted to stay with Britain.
Revolutions are not fought and won by majorities. The quiet coup of the past 5 years was not done by a majority and the loud one to come will not be by a majority.
The old revolutionaries revolted for far lesser transgressions of the ruling elite. They’d choke on their tongues if they saw what’s happening today.
So true. Americans appear to be harder to Pizz off than they used to. Although the thing that really started the shooting in 1774 was when the British came for the guns. Thats the major trigger now also. IMO.
Also, wait til the banking haircut that is surely coming. I think they are trying to call it the one time wealth tax. Thats going to go over like a lead balloon here.
I picked up a couple of things too. I agree with her message.
Have you listened to the video in Post 89?
Have you listened to the video in Post 89?
What Anarchy Isn’t:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMoPBDz5ycA&feature=youtu.be
I know, I did too. I thought she did an excellent job, very professional, very thought-provoking, very succinct...just an all-around A+ job. I think this should be the “go-to” video for educating people about this.
Thanks for viewing it and recommending it to others.
I just watched the video. Those are some powerful, yet instinctual ideas being discussed. They go against the grain of everything I've ever known (or been indoctrinated into) about governments, and how and why free people institute them in the first place.
A lot of what the new Anarchists are preaching, harkens back to the most fundamental precepts that guided the Framers in their construction of our system of government. Ideas that came out of the Enlightenment, and then made their way into our founding documents and central agreements as a people.
Viewing our grand experiment through the eyes of the Anarchists, it would appear that the Framers only made it halfway to realizing a truly free society composed of sovereign individuals. Despite their best efforts, they still gave us a framework that could (and would) be subverted to the will of the evil, and used to subjugate the very people it was meant to serve.
>>They go against the grain of everything I’ve ever known (or been indoctrinated into) about governments, and how and why free people institute them in the first place.
Windflier,
I just wanted to thank you for posting your thoughtful response to this video. Where you state it goes “against the grain of everything I’ve ever known (or been indoctrinated into) about governments”, etc., that was exactly my initial response as well. Sure does make you think!
A nation (would there be “nations”?) valley, domain, county, state or whatever without any government would quickly descend into robber barons duking it out, with the biggest and baddest ones taking control.
IOW, dictators.
It’s human nature, libertarian dreams notwithstanding.
>>A nation (would there be “nations”?) valley, domain, county, state or whatever without any government would quickly descend into robber barons duking it out, with the biggest and baddest ones taking control.
IOW, dictators.
Kind of like what we are descending into now? It’s been a while since I viewed it, but I thought at one point in the video she addressed this point. It does seem that evil will always strive to prevail regardless of the system.
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