Posted on 12/31/2013 5:25:19 AM PST by Perdogg
…but you apparently cannot read my post……..
I think it’s clearly a lateral, but I was confused by your “Decker is closer” comment…..not sure I know what you meant by that. I took it originally to mean you thought it was a forward pass…..but I may have misinterpreted….
Dang, we agree on something at least…..
Looking at the ball, it seems like the trajectory is headed is straight line from where the ball was released?
Could it be the Decker’s hands were outstretched between frame 3 and 4 and this is where he caught the ball.
And in frame 4 he had pulled the ball into his body?
Comments are not mine, there were the article.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24393148/nfl-elias-reviewing-peyton-manning-passing-record
No, if you see the video, the ball was clearly thrown backwards at least a yard…probably more like a yard and a foot or so….from Mannings hands to Deckers hands. Decker was moving forward, so as he brought the ball into his body, he was downfield a yard or so from when he first touched it.
Your frames totally miss the ball first touching Deckers outstretched hands….at which point, his hands were above the 48, or maybe just inside the 48 yard line clearly. As your frame 3 shows, the ball is almost at the 49….and it was very definitely at the 49 when it was released. Remember, Mannings follow thru is deceptive here…..ball released at 49, caught at 48, period.
>> He should have played a little in the second half.<<
He would have if Oakland would have played a little in the first half.
Sports reporters use the most illogical idiotic arguments all the time…this particular writer’s logic is infantile……it doesn’t matter where DECKER is..it only matters where the BALL IS in the air…when Manning last touches it and Decker FIRST TOUCHES IT - the writer is just wrong. The movement of Decker makes it a little tricky to see…but if you simply look at the two points of contact….Manning release and Decker first touch…it’s a yard negative, maybe a few inches more.
Good gosh. Who cares? Give him the record, and...I’m a Pat’s fan!
He is a great quarterback.
Hahahahaha...I love it when people, who have hundreds of other threads to comment on, feel the need to click on these to make those kinds of comments.
He is a great QB, and yet you want to GIVE HIM THE RECORD? Well, everyone gets a trophy, right. Is Brees not a great QB too? Should we GIVE it to him nezt year?????
I don't care who holds the record, and I don't care who you pull for. Both are irrelevant here. To me, there is a death of obvious truth in our culture…the NFL included. The NFL has legalize fantasy touchdowns for breaking the plane from outside the endzone, and made it so that you have to grow moss if you catch a ball inside the endzone for the same six points.
So truth and logic are the issue, in politics, sports, culture. Also, it's just damned interesting as well. Are you so unhappy that you can't just skid a thread you aren't interested in???????
>>Yawn.
We need to stop mistaking professional athletes for people of significance.<<
You will have to introduce us all to the big dude that put your arm behind your back and forced you to sign on to a thread about a specific athlete — in a sport also named iun the thread, no less.
I am sure the Ballet Dancing and/or How to Make an Apple Martini threads will welcome your comments.
AGREED!!!
I tend to agree. I wonder if the ‘powers that be’ will be bold enough to deduct this from Manning?
If only Manning had not rested on his ‘supposed’ laurels and played another series or two in the second half then we would not be talking about this.
What was Manning thinking if he really wanted to be sure he had the record? Would he have played in the third quarter if he was a yard short of the record at the end on the first half? You know he would have.
Like I said earlier, one yard over the record is too close for comfort.
This may come back to bite Manning in a big way.
Great pictures — thanks for posting them.
Clearly, this is too close to call and thus, like with IR, the call on the field stands.
Peyton hangs on to the record until broken (next year?)
To address a sort of subthread emerging: Football is measured in yards but is a game of inches. I have seen plays decided by a blade of grass’ width.
I am sure the Ballet Dancing and/or How to Make an Apple Martini threads will welcome your comments.
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LOL!
That’s the problem - there is no actual call on the field. Refs don’t care if it was a forward pass or lateral, unless something resulted that then forced them to decide what it initially was. These are stats can be changed seamlessly without effecting the outcome of the game, like scorekeepers in baseball who decide the next day a hit was an error, or vice-versa.
I think you misunderstand me. (for some reason, a lot of people seem to be “misunderstanding” you on this thread)
Did I say at all I wasn’t interested in this? I’m not like daveinyork who wasn’t at all interested (so he says) and just wanted to crap over everyone who was.
And what on earth makes you think I am unhappy?
Look, people are jumping all over you, and I am not one of them. I don’t understand why you are attacking me. I understand why you might disagree with me because you think they should be able to review things after a game is done and change statistical items, but I disagree with the basic concept of going back after a game and reviewing things.
Are they ever going to go back after a game and award an obvious touchdown that was disallowed? Of course not. So why should they do it with things like this?
I really don’t understand why you attacked me personally.
Agreed with all…..and I doubt they’ll take it away. They’ll use that misleading wording of the rule to deny the obvious….that the damned ball went backwards. They are always using the wording of their rules NOT to overrule stuff that clearly should be overruled. Happens with instant replay all the time…and the written rule on what is a completed pass/fumble versus what is a clear fumble is just absurd. They screw that one up all the time.
They have an unseemly reverence for their first thought…...
no harm, no foul…my bad.
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