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Smoking Gun” of LENR: Fleischmann Project results duplicated in one Day
Cold Fusion3.com ^ | Published November 7, 2013 | By jennifer

Posted on 12/13/2013 1:00:32 PM PST by Kevmo

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To: Wonder Warthog

I have yet to see any of the first type.
***I’ve seen a few. They usually head on over to lenr-canr.org and might read a few of the introductory papers. They tend to go silent after that.

A person claiming rational/scientific skepticism usually doesn’t have to say it in all caps.


21 posted on 12/13/2013 3:53:42 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: editor-surveyor

We’d be driving LENR cars by now if only 2% of that money had been diverted to it.


22 posted on 12/13/2013 4:05:33 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Wonder Warthog

The first thing I can tell you the amount of anger toward skeptics of and the pathological devotion by the proponents of any scientific theroy especially one that hads yet to have any true success in being proven is in itself a big red flag of caution to me.


23 posted on 12/13/2013 4:39:03 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: editor-surveyor

TSK...TSK editor-surveyor if you would just read the papers on it.

Now how about you float me a few million?


24 posted on 12/13/2013 4:44:13 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kevmo

bump


25 posted on 12/13/2013 4:44:16 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Kartographer

Now you’ve done it! Welcome to the world of luddites according to Kevmo! if you don’t joyfully embrace and refute any and all skepticism you are a anti science medievalist! Well, welcome to the club, the meeting will come to order shortly. P.S., Kevmo does not handle differing views well. And Kevmo don’t get all bent out of shape, it’s not an attack just simple truth.


26 posted on 12/13/2013 4:49:37 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1
So will he threaten to feed me a bullet if we ever meet? Or worse? As the keeper of the Preppers’ PING List for the past 4 years I been threatened, maligned and attempted to be bullied by the best of them, so let them huff and puffy away.

My apologies to anyone who takes offense because I used all caps in the word PING. OOpps did it again.
27 posted on 12/13/2013 4:59:39 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer; Wonder Warthog

pathological devotion by the proponents of any scientific theroy
***And exactly what theory is that? Do you even know the difference between theory and observation of facts? The fact that you don’t know “ is in itself a big red flag of caution to me.” WW is correct in identifying your skepticism as pathological.

asked & answered
-———————www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg87491.html-———————


28 posted on 12/13/2013 5:24:49 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kartographer

As the keeper of the Preppers’ PING List for the past 4 years I been threatened, maligned and attempted to be bullied by the best of them, so let them huff and puffy away.
***And as the keeper of the LENR ping list I’ve been subjected to the same level of horse manure. I expected more from you than horse crap.


29 posted on 12/13/2013 5:25:56 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kartographer
"The first thing I can tell you the amount of anger toward skeptics of and the pathological devotion by the proponents of any scientific theroy especially one that hads yet to have any true success in being proven is in itself a big red flag of caution to me.

There is no scientific theory of LENR. My support of LENR is totally based on experimental evidence, not theory. And in the world of science, experiment trumps theory.

Your statement "yet to have any true success" is simply wrong. "True success" in the world of science comes from replicated experiments....which have been done, and the results are available.

But I'll ask again......what scientific evidence have you studied on the subject?

30 posted on 12/13/2013 5:46:59 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Kevmo; Kartographer
"WW is correct in identifying your skepticism as pathological."

Well, not quite yet. I'm collecting evidence. The pathological sorts always eventually self-identify.

31 posted on 12/13/2013 5:51:21 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Kartographer

So will he threaten to feed me a bullet if we ever meet? Or worse?

Please, don’t be so melodramatic, Kevmo is exceptionally passionate about LENR, so much so as to be ridiculously impatient and rude with ANYONE who questions the science or reality of LENR. I think you will find that your being the target of his adolescent vituperation puts you in good company.


32 posted on 12/13/2013 5:55:25 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1

Please, don’t be so melodramatic,
***Good advice.

Kevmo is exceptionally passionate about LENR,
***Yup. Given that this Anomalous Heat Effect has been replicated more than 14,000 times, it pushes my passion.

so much so as to be ridiculously impatient and rude with ANYONE who questions the science
***And where is the science being questioned? None of the skeptopaths seem to want to do it. Because they can’t.

or reality of LENR.
***Interesting perspective. Of course, to label my writings as “adolescent vituperation” leads one to believe that somehow the skeptopaths are being more “adult” when they refuse to examine the science behind the claims???? bowlsheet. They don’t even address the science. Just simple bandwagon jumping.

puts you in good company.
***There’s that bandwagon again. Address the science. You don’t because you can’t.


33 posted on 12/13/2013 6:08:27 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

Hey Kevmo, BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH! Get some maturity and just let it go instead of constantly reacting to people like a child. If you are as confident as you proclaim you don’t need to respond to us lowly luddites that you believe don’t match your brilliance. Don’t bother responding because I won’t and golly I thought I was actually pretty kind and and supportive of you, but there you went again sliding down the emotional scale.


34 posted on 12/13/2013 6:27:45 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1

just let it go instead of constantly reacting to people like a child. If you are as confident as you proclaim you don’t need to respond to us lowly luddites

***asked & answered... maybe, instead of acting like a child yourself, you simply address the science behind the claims? Or are you too childish to stoop to that level?

-———————www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg87047.html-—————

that you believe don’t match your brilliance.
***I regularly run into skeptopaths who claim much higher level of education, even in the hard sciences, than I have. I know they match my “brilliance”, they’re just too lazy to examine the science behind the claims. Like you are.

Don’t bother responding because I won’t and
***What is the point of your post? Does it mean we will have to wait for some other skeptic who will actually examine the science behind the claims? It would appear so.

golly I thought I was actually pretty kind and and supportive of you,
***Ditto and likewise

but there you went again sliding down the emotional scale.
***You’re starting to sound shrill. Maybe if you spent a few boring nights actually examining the scientific evidence that you so much disdain, you’d have a fresh perspective.


35 posted on 12/13/2013 6:44:07 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Mastador1; Wonder Warthog; Kevmo
Mastador1: "I think you will find that your being the target of his adolescent vituperation puts you in good company.'
My experince as the keeper of the preppers ping list affirms your axiom.

Kevmo: I see your point about being a keeper of a list of devotees and so I offer my apology for my posting on your thread and I promise therefore on my honor I will never darken one of your LENR threads again.

Wonder Warthog: If belief and passion alone made scientific theory work, you could be the world's foremost alchemist. But until such time that I flip my light switch and there is light provide by LENR I will remain a skepic(but not on LENR Threads), as to me that will be the 'proof of the pudding'. And should such a day come I will on my honor offer you the most heartfelt public apology that I can.

There that's the best I can do without using all CAPS.
36 posted on 12/13/2013 7:01:17 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Kevmo: I see your point about being a keeper of a list of devotees and so I offer my apology for my posting on your thread and I promise therefore on my honor I will never darken one of your LENR threads again.
***You miss the point entirely. You’ve been directly asked to examine the science behind the claims.

But until such time that I flip my light switch and there is light provide by LENR I will remain a skepic , as to me that will be the ‘proof of the pudding’.
***asked & answered

-———————www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg85737.html-———————


37 posted on 12/13/2013 7:14:36 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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this is a better response

-————————***asked & answered...-———

———————www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg87047.html——————


38 posted on 12/13/2013 7:49:06 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Mastador1

Hey Kevmo, BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH! Get some maturity
***I suppose the above is an example of a mature response?


39 posted on 12/13/2013 7:51:49 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

What’s the matter no one else to play with? remember that part where I said you just can’t let it go? look in the mirror, it’s you. Night night I don’t play with broken toys.


40 posted on 12/13/2013 8:00:21 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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