[Yosemitest]

"then your source mentions the geminids in an attempt to imply that we are getting ison debris."

Where?
Give me a link.

He differentiated between the Geminid Meteors and those coming from 46P/Wirtanen.
He also said that our danger from Ison wouldn't start until around the third week of December.

[Darksheare]

Arizona fireball.
It was a Geminid.
http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=16&month=12&year=2013
Article centerish of page “geminids subsiding”.
It is hard to link on a mobile phone.

[Darksheare]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3098429/posts?page=333#333
Bottom of your own post , claim that the arizona fireball wasn’t typical...
It was fairly typical of geminids.