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To: Yosemitest
First of all solar flares having nothing whatsoever to do with ISON and they happen all the time. The Sun is very, very large and in comparison, ISON was a mere speck. To say that ISON caused any solar flares would be analogous to saying, “I took a piss in the ocean one day off the Santa Monica Pier and the very next day there was an earth quake and tsunami in Japan.”

ISON was already breaking up and disintegrating well before it reached perihelion and it was estimated to only be about a half mile in diameter at most, a rather small comet. To say as your “YouTube” source claims that there are mile wide chunks about to hit the Earth is ridiculous. You simply don’t and can’t get mile wide or bigger chunks from a comet that was less than a half mile wide in diameter to begin with.

And look at this, the Earth is simply not going to intersect with any outbound ISON comet debris:

 http://astrobob.areavoices.com/files/2013/12/ISON-A-Earth-post-perihelion.jpg

http://astrobob.areavoices.com/2013/12/10/comet-ison-update-dec-10-meteor-shower-in-the-offing/

“I’ve been asked whether Earth will get dusted by ISON’s dusty cloud of debris as it passes our planet on the outbound leg of its journey. The answer is almost certainly “no”. There are several reasons why. First, the debris passes far above the Earth’s orbit even at its closest approach on Dec. 26, when what’s left of the comet will be nearly directly above our planet and 40 million miles away. That’s farther than Venus and even farther than Mars during its closest approaches. I’ve read catastrophic talk ISON raining hell fire on Earth. Not gonna happen. Not even meteor fire – at least from the breakup.

Second, while the debris cloud will certainly expand and enlarge, the comet leftovers will continue to travel along the same general path as ISON. They won’t suddenly veer off and make a beeline for Earth. They carry much of the original momentum and direction as the comet that created them.

And

Meteor researcher Paul Wiegert of the University of Western Ontario has been using a computer to model the trajectory of dust ejected by Comet ISON and predicts that starting about January 12 and continuing for several evenings, we stand a chance of a meteor shower from material released well before perihelion.

The dust particles will strike Earth’s atmosphere at around 125,000 mph (56 km/sec), but because they’ll be so tiny, it’s unlikely we’ll actually see anything.

To say that these dust particles from ISON pose any danger to Earth or will even be observable is ridiculous. We might at the very best observe a few brief streaks of light in the sky as some of the larger particles (yet very tiny specs) when they hit the high atmosphere and quickly burn up but they are not likely to be anything compared to other meteor showers like the Geminids or any of the other yearly meteor showers. FYI, the fire ball seen over Arizona had nothing whatsoever to do with ISON but was most likely part of the Geminid meteor shower which are known for occasionally producing harmless but yet very bright “fire balls”.

The International Space Station and other Earth orbiting objects like satellites are more in danger from space debris of the man made kind than they are from specks of specks of dust left over from ISON.

And your source for these YouTube videos you keep posting here, Jessie Waltman; he is a complete nut job with no understanding or background in astronomy and as someone on another one of your ISON threads correctly called it: “Disaster Porn”

There seems to me to be a subset of “End Times” and prophesy and conspiracy theorists nuts who keep claiming that the “End Of The World Is Nigh.” They keep predicting mass destruction and horrific mass deaths either from comets or asteroids, rogue planets that do not exist, or earth quakes or volcanoes, or a combination of every natural disaster possible or just God’s plain wrath, and when it doesn’t happen as predicted, they just move on to the next one. And this is not just limited to the religious conspiracy nuts; the Gia worshiping environmental AGW (anthropogenic global warming) nuts seem to also revel in the idea of eventual demise of mankind.

Remember when Harold Camping famously or more precisely “infamously” predicted that the end of the world and the rapture would occur on May 21, 2011 but when that didn’t happen he just moved the date to October 21, 2011 and when that didn’t happen he pretty much retired and disappeared from public view? Unfortunately a few of his true believers sold everything they owned in order to buy billboards and quit their jobs in order to stand on street corners proclaiming the end of the world. Well “Stupid is as stupid does” and I have a hard time feeling sorry for such gullible and uneducated fools.

“Disaster Porn” is a very good name for this sort of thing. There are some people who actually seem to wish for and actually look forward and get their jollies off from imaging mass horrific and painful deaths of millions of people and the mass destruction of the Earth during their life time because they think they will somehow be immune or “saved” from it and will somehow feel fulfilled and justified in seeing the horrific deaths of others who don’t believe exactly as they do. And when it doesn’t happen, rather than being relieved, they seem rather disappointed and then they just move on to the next weird and scientifically unsound “disaster porn” theory.

“You pulled another thread…. because you don’t believe the footage from a government satellite?

No. That thread was pulled because it was “Idiocy” and rightly so.

248 posted on 12/14/2013 6:57:28 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA
There is so much wrong with your assumptions that I don;t know where to begin.
This nails it.
The footage is real, and it's there, and right up front, too.
Do you think that 2013/12/12 06:36 photo in that video is not real?
And where do come up with the That was proven false on Nov 22, 2013 and linked to in comment #12.
But the admin moderator (probably you) refused to allow verifiable proof on Free Republic that the disintegrated pieces from Ison's inbound path are huge.

You have no proof of that!
I'd say that BPEarthWatch's videos go a lot further proving that the do, than you opinionated statement.

That's your opinion (and thanks for the nice graphic), but that remains yet to be proven, and we're not safe about that until AFTER the 1st of January 2014.
Again, the "shotgun blast" theory of Ison's debris, especially since we now know that disintegration was going on well before Ison crossed Mars inbound, would allow time for a very wide cone of debris on its outbound path, as well as the inbound path.

Who is Jessie Waltman?
Another opinionated statement.
Who's talking about "dust particles" ?
I'm talking about large pieces of Ison's debris.

You need to wake up!
249 posted on 12/14/2013 9:04:03 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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