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To: Figment

I think, considering that there are so many little laws on the books that any one of us now could potentially run afoul of the three strikes law, that’s a very stupid thing to say and I hope that you don’t end up facing the prospect of one of your children being in this position.

Secondly, real justice does not mean bringing punishment to a level where nobody dares commit a crime, for that is an impossible task and it certainly is unbiblical. Real injustice involves giving out retribution in proportion to the crime done.

Third, it’s the argument that, for the safety of the community draconian laws need to exist, the Constitution is being rendered null and void.


8 posted on 11/29/2013 11:55:07 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

I agree with you to the greater extent - especially if some of the crimes are petty. I do wonder where this kid would have ended up later though - killing someone in a robbery or smashing some other poor kid beyond recognition.

What people refuse to believe but behavioral psychologists know is the the potential for extreme behavior later shows up when these kids are young teens or even pre-teens in this sought of behavior. I have worked with youth and in Security and if there is no possibility of early, parental supported, intervention at a very young age then it is only the possibility of them hearing and accepting the gospel that will turn them around.

Mel


10 posted on 11/30/2013 12:19:57 AM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: Jonty30

Well said. Too many here want to live in a police state as long as it’s a Republican police state.


11 posted on 11/30/2013 12:30:02 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Jonty30; melsec; TigersEye

I agree. Too many people want to live in a black and white world with no grey areas. That is until it affects them personally.


32 posted on 11/30/2013 2:42:54 AM PST by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: Jonty30

Woo hoo! Someone with a brain capable of thinking it out instead of merely going with inner opinions/likes/dislikes. It’s refreshing - thanks.


39 posted on 11/30/2013 4:13:55 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Jonty30
I think, considering that there are so many little laws on the books that any one of us now could potentially run afoul of the three strikes law, that’s a very stupid thing to say and I hope that you don’t end up facing the prospect of one of your children being in this position.

If one of my children were a three-time thief, I'd be the one to throw the key away. However, I like to think I raised them better than to steal from others.

Your attitude is why we have so many criminals out there with rap sheets a mile long. When they are not punished for their actions, they commit their crimes over and over again.

It has nothing to do with the "little" laws on the books either. Stealing is still stealing. It's one of the 10 Commandments. People who make a career of stealing from others should not be out on the street.

55 posted on 11/30/2013 6:08:42 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Jonty30

I agree with you. Mandatory sentencing is stupid.

As for cops planting evidence, I know a guy who used to be a cop. He told me he saw another cop plant drugs on a black guy. The cop said “He didn’t have drugs on him tonight. But I’m sure he had some on him last week.” The guy I know didn’t cross that thin blue line. (It’s getting thicker every day.)


64 posted on 11/30/2013 6:37:16 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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