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To: CharlesWayneCT

“If we start executing every driver that runs a red light”,

-we’d be a safer nation and less dead families?
-we’d have less text messaging and distracted driving?
-we’d have less temper tantrums by out of control drivers?
-we’d have fewer criminals running from the cops?

Where do you want me to go with this?

Again, you are trying to trivialize this criminal driver so you can be dismissive of his actions. Sorry, but he wasn’t shot and killed for running a red light. He was shot and killed for failing to cease his dangerous actions that already involved the crashing of others, continuing to run red lights, and using his vehicle as a weapon.

If you don’t want to be shot and killed in efforts to stop your vehicle, don’t do those things, mkay? Grow up.


170 posted on 11/09/2013 8:02:46 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: CodeToad
You said, and I quote:
"Bashing the cop car at low speed, not so much, but blowing through red lights and bashing other vehicles, he is a dangerous felon and a predator on society. "
So yes, you seem to be saying that if a driver runs a red light and runs into another car in the process, we should shoot them because they are a "dangerous felon" and a "predator on society".

To be clear -- there is no evidence in the video that the driver INTENDED to hit anybody, or meant any harm to anybody. You can certainly argue that his actions put people in danger (but frankly, I watch drivers every day do things that COULD lead to people being killed).

But there is no evidence that this person regularly ran into people, or ran red lights as a matter of course. What he did that night he did based on the specific circumstances. We don't know why -- maybe he panicked, maybe he was upset, maybe the cops did something that scared him to start.

Clearly, if the cop had NOT shot the man, and the man had then gotten out of the car, nobody, even YOU, would be arguing that he deserved the death penalty for what he did.

So why argue that he deserved to die, simply because he was shot by an officer?

BTW, I'd feel differently if the cop shot the driver while the truck was running toward the cop or another cop. I believe deadly force is warranted to stop an emminent car attack.

But the video shows the truck is not moving. At the time the shots were fired, there was no imminent threat to anybody. The killing was at best pre-emptive, based on an assumption that if the person was not killed, they would put the car back in gear, drive off, and eventually kill someone.

And our jurispudence very rarely allows police to make such a determination of the future. Even if they corner a known killer, they are not generally allowed to kill the killer unless the killer is making immediate threats.

172 posted on 11/10/2013 10:37:41 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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