[Heavyrunner]

No plan survives first contact with the enemy...We simply don’t know how an armed civil conflict would evolve.

Would military or police refuse to fire on citizens? Would they fall in line and drag our families from their homes in the dead of night?

Conflicts evolve and tactics change to adapt to realities. I don’t think conservatives would honestly seek to terrorize innocents in what is sure to amount to a war of attrition.

We will be painted as worse than militant Islamists by the 24/7 news cycle and our words will be drowned out by the press and the establishment, or twisted into soundbytes of racism, intolerance, or hate.

The nation is too lazy, stupid, and disengaged to revolt or to understand those who do.

Honestly, I hate to say it, but I think if we’re forced into combat with the Federal hydra, we’ve already lost. Only understanding the cause and effect of an entitlement society and suffering the collapse of our currency will start to bring people around. When someone truly has to exhaust themselves working for a morsel of food, and when jobs are simply not to be found anywaywhere and there’s no tax money left to support them, we’ll see a work ethic return and an appreciation for conservative values reignite.

[familyop]

"Only understanding the cause and effect of an entitlement society and suffering the collapse of our currency will start to bring people around. When someone truly has to exhaust themselves working for a morsel of food, and when jobs are simply not to be found anywaywhere and there’s no tax money left to support them, we’ll see a work ethic return and an appreciation for conservative values reignite."

That's a more realistic guess than most (histories, cause and effect, etc.). Well done. Couch potatoes trained by sharing reveries and showing off toys don't fight wars, but we might see something similar to what is happening in Greece (if not much poorer).

Any noticeable bulk of violence may be laid off bureaucrats and helpless pensioners with pension haircuts protesting, throwing junk at police and getting arrested. As for the Walter Mitty types in government paranoid about the rabble, big government can't be big or hysterical without big dollars of real value (from energy production, agricultural production and much more domestic manufacturing than what we're seeing).

Real morality does tend to return, after a population takes a good beating from the poverty and other hardships it asks for. Pride and hatred can only get any of us on any side punished more severely. Too many political foreigners (not all)--only a few generations removed from Europe--fail to understand the nature of our U.S. founding fathers and even try to revise the history of the good work done in early America. They do so in order to try to establish another Europe on our soil. Eventually, they will fail.