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Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults
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| Oct 4, 2013
| Alice Baghdjian
Posted on 10/04/2013 12:36:48 PM PDT by Kip Russell
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To: Kip Russell
If they are going to do this, they should eliminate all other social programs. It might actually be cheaper to administer - just make sure the penalties for fraud are severe.
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:38:12 PM PDT
by
Pollster1
("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
To: Kip Russell
I could become a full time ski bum on that stash outflow.
Where do I apply?
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:39:24 PM PDT
by
Paladin2
To: Kip Russell
and where will this money come from if every decides not to work?
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:41:05 PM PDT
by
GeronL
To: GeronL
You get $2,800.00.
But you are taxed 100%.
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:42:51 PM PDT
by
nixonsnose
(you never know how much pee splatters until you are standing at the urinal in flip flops.)
To: Pollster1
Charles Murray had a book about a similar proposal. He claims one can replace all the spending on redistribution programs with a $10,000 check to every US citizen.
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:44:55 PM PDT
by
C19fan
To: Kip Russell
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to eat for dinner.
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:45:03 PM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can be certain of the enthusiastic support of Paul)
To: GeronL
“and where will this money come from if every decides not to work?”
Don’t be silly. Corporations and the rich, of course. ] The have plenty of “spare” money they “don’t need.” Because, “at some point, you’ve got enough money.”
To: GeronL
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:47:45 PM PDT
by
EEGator
To: nixonsnose
And what is the cost of living in Switzerland?
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:48:09 PM PDT
by
mylife
(Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
To: Gen.Blather
“Unconditional Income” is not income. It’s Welfare. And people will not work. So a beer will cost 50 Swiss Francs. That’s $55 American.
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:49:24 PM PDT
by
massgopguy
(I owe everything to George Bailey)
To: nixonsnose
You get $2,800.00. But you are taxed 100%. From Wikipedia:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Switzerland
In 2011, the federal income tax varied from a bracket of 1% (for single tax payers) and 0.77% (for married taxpayers) to the maximum rate of 11.5%. Individuals earning below 13,600 and couples earning below 27,000 Swiss francs were exempt. On cantonal level, tax rates varies heavily, Obwalden adapted a 1.8% flat tax on all personal income following a cantonal referendum in 2007. In most cantons, the rate is proportional with a maximum rate of 6.5% in Bern, whereas in Zurich it was 13% and in Geneva 17.58-.76 % (depending upon taxes as single or jointly).
As I read it, the tax rate appears relatively low (unless you live in Zurich or Geneva)
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:49:55 PM PDT
by
Kip Russell
(Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
To: Pollster1
and if no one has an incentive to work, who is going to pay for this?
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:50:19 PM PDT
by
GeronL
To: nixonsnose
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:50:36 PM PDT
by
GeronL
To: C19fan
It goes back further than that. During the Nixon Administration, Milton Friedman proposed that the entire welfare bureaucracy be replaced by a “negative income tax”.
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:50:52 PM PDT
by
reg45
(Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
To: GeronL
There's tons of money in the vaults of the banks.

Ooooo.... Zurich, we have a problem.
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:51:09 PM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
To: reg45
During the Nixon Administration, Milton Friedman proposed that the entire welfare bureaucracy be replaced by a negative income tax. So we get the EITC and dozens of welfare programs.
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:52:02 PM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
To: KarlInOhio
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:52:02 PM PDT
by
GeronL
To: C19fan
I always laughed at Gov per diem travel reports.
They would pay 5 auditors to pour over your report to make sure you didn’t screw the Gov for a tube of toothpaste.
Spend $5k so save $5 LOL
I think it’s all flat rate now, as it should be.
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posted on
10/04/2013 12:52:16 PM PDT
by
mylife
(Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
To: C19fan
When Cloward and Piven originally came up with their strategy, the purpose was to force us to move to THIS instead.
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