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To: stanne
...as women were simply NOT educated in that time.

Are you stating this as absolute fact? Because the article says that this specific woman was educated at the Court.

I'm curious to know why many characters were named after this woman or her associates.

Why would Shakespeare (or Dowland) do that. Coincidence?

Let me add that I'm not a scholar on this topic, and am going only by what I read in this article. The article points out specific people, specific locations, specific events. Not generalizations.

-PJ

48 posted on 09/12/2013 2:03:12 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I can’t say it’s not possible, But I will say that when one is even slightly in the realm of Shakespeare, one is bombarded, and now by students who google, as was not the case when I started, with deterrents from his mastery.

I don’t read this stuff. I will when someone comes out with something completely undeniable.

I am saying that, and anyone familiar with his works knows this, if there were a group of people alive at one time who could put this all together, it would be a miracle.

And that any woman of that time may have been educated at court, but she would have to have had an extensive knowledge of society, humanity, behavior, vice, virtue as well as a genius in the language, the French language, latin, Greek, Catholicism, the struggles of Catholicism against the British anti Catholic culture, a grasp of comedy and tragedy and how to put that forth, military tactics, the ways of men, just to start.

This screams, ‘alter Western Civilization history so the kids can feel even worse about themselves’ as is so common


52 posted on 09/12/2013 2:19:38 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Political Junkie Too

and I don’t mean to say that Jewish women don’t or haven’t contributed to Western or basic civilization, as the Good Lord and I know they do, it’s to say that there is a faction constantly attempting to denigrate.

Shakespeare’s works are magnificent, but not so because, as in the case of, say, Oprah’s book club, or something academic, even, people tell you you’re cool if you say you like them and even more so if you know a little, but because they are truly magnificent.

And to say that just anyone or a group of writers or a woman who was taught a lot within the confines of a castle under duress could have written them is one in many attempts to tell people to look the other way regarding the greatness of the Western World.

My colleague and dear friend, the middle school history teacher at our school says ‘you know everyone hates Shakespeare’ I say, come to my class at 7th period and see.

She NEVER obliges.

When you geta group of motley 7th grade boys to, within 3 weeks, quote Shakespeare slinging slurs and insults from ‘Romeo and Juliet’ in the produce aisle on the way home with their very busy and astonished mother; when you have a group of 30 9th graders glued to the screen after having read, analyzed, acted out and read,
‘Taming of the Shrew’, hanging onto every middle English word from Taylor and Burton, that’s when I can say, not just any schmo, nor lovely and driven woman of the time could have written this 500 year old stuff.


56 posted on 09/12/2013 2:33:45 PM PDT by stanne
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