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For anyone to argue that they don’t benefit from public education is stupid
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Correlation is not causation. For example, nearly everyone you do business with has eaten potatoes. Does that mean we should have socialized potatoes because there would be no doctors or engineers without access to potatoes?

But...Seriously, where are the studies that PROVE government schooling actually teaches children anything? You can’t provide them because they have NEVER been done.

What a child learns IN THE HOME due to parental input, the child’s own work, and formal and informal tutoring from friends, family, and paid tutors has NEVER BEEN MEASURED!!!

Got it? NO ONE knows if government schools really teach anything! They may very well may merely be sending home a very very very EXPENSIVE curriculum for the parent, child, and tutors to follow IN THE HOME!!!

It seems stupid to me, to spend a universe of money on a socialist-entitlement program that has NEVER been proven to work!

You are correct. Many of the people posting have failed to gain a basic classical education. They need to understand the fallacy in their arguments.

They also are trying to legitimize their seizure of others money for their benefit. Arguments that would persuade a child do not work in the adult world, but they continue to try. They are the trophy for everyone crowd, and nobody fails crowd. I’m sure they are playing with their ObamaPhone, as they love their socialized medical, and socialized education system.

Here is a nice link for all the others on the thread that can’t make a solid argument.

http://changingminds.org/disciplines/argument/fallacies/aristotle_fallacies.htm

When Jefferson first proposed what came to be the fundamental structure of primary public education in America, it never occurred to him that the State Establishment of Education would ultimately produce the same sort of consequences produced by a State Establishment of Religion, and for much the same kind of reasons. The objection Jefferson, Madison, Adams, Washington, and Franklin (and many others) had with ‘Establishment’ was that it forced doctrines on people with which they took exception, often vehement exception, and it extorted their support, both financially and by their attendance. That’s not unlike the circumstances many people find in Government controlled education.

The education of our children is done in the interests of the State (Federal, State, & Local), and in the interests of the various warring groups fighting for control of the state. The day that it was done in the interests of the children and their parents (the people, in other words) is long gone. The fact that the Federal government, the state governments, and even many of the local governments have come to regard the public school system as nothing more than a part of their respective information ministry infrastructures, is as clear a signal as possible that education can no longer serve the people while it remains a creature of the state.

We can understand why Jefferson, Madison, et al, did not transfer what they had come to know and understand about the Establishment of Religion to other instances of the same order. Their “failure” does not excuse our failure.

We have fire departments (generally a local matter), and likewise police departments, both for the protection and general benefit of the people. Likewise, the Courts, which have a Federal component regulating the relationships between the several states and between individuals and the states. Also the Armed Services for defense against foreign enemies.

Our general rule must be no regime establishment of ideas if we are to retain our freedom of thought. Presently, the rule is honored almost exclusively only in its breach.