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Proven wrong? You're an imbecile.

Just because you say something has been "proven wrong" doesn't make it so, pinhead.

No it doesn't. But because it has been PROVEN WRONG, I say so because unlike you, I tell the truth when I see it.

Three other people have told you that Nathan Dane has been proven wrong. Your allies, Nero Germanicus and Tau Food have chosen NOT to defend you on this. I dare say MOST of your allies will not defend you on this because it is indefensible. But you know what? I think i'll ask them.

You are a little pansy @$$ that seems to think NUMBERS = TRUTH, so If we get commentary from sufficient people, perhaps the NUMBERS of people will convince Jeffery that NATHAN DANE HAS BEEN PROVEN WRONG.

I simply repeated Dane's words. Dane was clearly of the opinion that Thomas Jefferson had indeed been made a naturalized citizen of France, and that that naturalized citizenship was real.

You are a deluded little Pr***. The most reasonable thing anyone can do for you is to ridicule you to tears.

My view has always been that the NBC focus needs to be on the candidate's relationship to the United States. As I've said, I don't think a candidate's NBC status is altered by any choices made by a foreign government to view the candidate as a citizen of the foreign country or to not view the candidate as a citizen of the foreign country. In my view, only Americans can make choices that are relevant to the selection of an American president. We cannot grant foreign governments the power to manipulate our choices or our future.

So, I haven't really studied anything concerning how France might have viewed Jefferson or what honors the French government may have bestowed upon him. There existed a Constitutional exception covering Jefferson's NBC status, but even had there not been such an exception, my focus would be on Jefferson's relationship to the United States, citizenship choices that Jefferson may have made, etc. How the government of France viewed Jefferson or what honors it may have showered upon him would hold no relevance to me in terms of his eligibility to be selected as our president.

For those who are interested in this kind of thing, I think the tiny Republic of San Marino once conferred some sort of citizenship on Lincoln. Maybe I'm wrong. Actually, maybe it was that the City of San Marino made him "Mayor for the Day" or something. ;-)

In any event, I think that these "dual citizenship" concerns will become relevant when we have a candidate who can be shown to have applied for foreign citizenship or in some way affirmatively accepted that status. Jefferson, Lincoln, Cruz - they all seem to me Americans without any conflicting loyalties.

Once again, I consider all of you to be my allies. I sincerely think that each of you has uncovered a great deal that is of historical and analytical value. If nothing else, it's interesting and when the waitress brings that third round of drinks, we will now be armed with the kind of informational ammunition that might impress and amaze our real world friends and associates.

Or, maybe not. Don't forget to leave a tip! ;-)