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To: DiogenesLamp; Jeff Winston; xzins; Lakeshark; onyx
Since you are referring to Jeff, you should provide a courtesy 'ping' to him.

Okay then, I'll now quote from a similar Constitutional analysis from a 2011 report prepared by the Congressional Research Office ...

The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term “natural born” citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “by birth” or “at birth,” either by being born “in” the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship “at birth.” Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an “alien” required to go through the legal process of “naturalization” to become a U.S. citizen.

Even poluttico begrudgingly admits ...None of these situations have ever stopped a candidate from running, and it’s unlikely that Cruz would be the first.

371 posted on 08/28/2013 7:40:41 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Since you are referring to Jeff, you should provide a courtesy 'ping' to him.

Jeff deserves no courtesy. He is a habitual and determined liar, and I have long since lost any respect for him.

Okay then, I'll now quote from a similar Constitutional analysis from a 2011 report prepared by the Congressional Research Office ...

Stop. Just Stop. I do not give a FLYING FIG for anything written in the modern political environment. You cannot garner a correct understanding by reading opinions from hundreds of years after the fact.

You want to quote something to me? Make it late 18th or early 19th century. Here is an example of what I mean.

Chief Justice of the Supreme Court John Marshall.

Vattel, who, though not very full to this point, is more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says

"The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens.


374 posted on 08/28/2013 8:35:13 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Thanks for pinging me.

Yes, having spent countless hours now digging through history and the law, I find the quote from the CRS to be accurate:

The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term “natural born” citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “by birth” or “at birth,” either by being born “in” the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship “at birth.” Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an “alien” required to go through the legal process of “naturalization” to become a U.S. citizen.

417 posted on 08/28/2013 1:07:47 PM PDT by Jeff Winston (Yeah, I think I could go with Cruz in 2016.)
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