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To: Larry - Moe and Curly
What I’m talking about is the pejorative “birther”

Well, I've used the term birther, but not in a pejorative sense. It's just a descriptive term.

What I really want to know is why your side is so strongly pushing someone whose eligibility is so questionable.

Ted Cruz brings to the table some unique qualities. He's very intelligent, he's very articulate and he isn't intimidated by either the MSM or by any need to be loved by everyone. He's one of a kind and I don't think you'll find an adequate substitute for him.

Those birthers who claimed that Obama was born in Kenya or that his father was a British citizen or that it is impossible to identify his "real" parents promised that the revelations would injure Obama's candidacy. Well, Obama was twice elected and he appeared to be using the birther claims for his own advantage.

Most people that I know intuitively believe that someone who is born a citizen of the U.S. is a natural born citizen of the U.S. Most people have never heard of Grotius or Vattel. Most don't even speak French. Most would not be inclined to submit to the notion that we as Americans must look to foreign books written before our country was even formed for guidance as to whom we may or may not select to be our presidents.

Maybe you could elaborate on your fears. Why do you feel that Cruz is less eligible than Obama? How might a Cruz candidacy be derailed by the fact that there are a few folks who adhere to these old European citizenship theories? Are you afraid that some court might attempt to disqualify Cruz? Specifically, what are you worried about?

361 posted on 08/28/2013 6:16:28 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food

“Well, I’ve used the term birther, but not in a pejorative sense. It’s just a descriptive term. “

Really? The term Birther was to link people who thought Obama was born outside the country to 911 Truthers. Morons. Idiots. Insane. ...

We know exactly what people who use the term “Birther” are trying to do, and you’re using it as a pejorative to minimize the impact of what those who disagree with you say.

“Most people that I know intuitively believe that someone who is born a citizen of the U.S. is a natural born citizen...”

So this is the new criteria for interpreting the Constitution?

“Maybe you could elaborate on your fears. Why do you feel that Cruz is less eligible than Obama?”
Ineligible is ineligible. Is there a lesser or greater degree of ineligibility that works for you? However, if ultimately judged that natural born citizen requires you to be born on US soil, 0bama (if you believe his story and the “documents” he’s presented) would be eligible (heaven forbid) and Cruz not.

“How might a Cruz candidacy be derailed by the fact that there are a few folks who adhere to these old European citizenship theories?”
So, what criteria are we using to interpret the Constitution today? Different than yesterday? Different than last year? Different than the original intent? What about the next Canadian-Cuban-American or Kenyan-American that runs for President? Will his motivies be pure?

“Are you afraid that some court might attempt to disqualify Cruz?”
What if the Supreme Court STOPS evading the issue after Cruz is elected?

“Specifically, what are you worried about?”
I’m worried that the Constitution means absolutely nothing anymore to anyone and it’s only a matter of time until the shooting starts. My first grandchild was born on July 4th and I fear for his future.

Thank you for the opportunity to express my fears. Can I get up off the couch now?


400 posted on 08/28/2013 10:51:25 AM PDT by Larry - Moe and Curly (Loose lips sink ships.)
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