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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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To: machogirl

WFTV gave the twitter link. I can’t even access the one you gave as so many people are trying to access it now!


1,781 posted on 07/10/2013 1:06:28 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: RummyChick
so would take an outsider

Or someone retired, works outside the district, or is an attorney who works in another field (not uncommon).

1,782 posted on 07/10/2013 1:06:38 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: don-o

Bawahahahahahah. . .so true.


1,783 posted on 07/10/2013 1:06:44 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: martinidon
“His Hannity interview was enough.” In my opinion the Hannity inter view was a mistake. What happens if you have some liberal Hannity haters on the jury?

or conservative Hannity haters like myself .... Hannity only looks conservative because he surrounds himself with a sea of liberals and give them a constant platform

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1,784 posted on 07/10/2013 1:06:49 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Uncle Chip

Um, maybe George took the ‘other one’ out of the gene pool? The visit to the retreat was not the first time traytable had been to the place. His sperm donor daddy has been living with the female who owns the condo for how long?


1,785 posted on 07/10/2013 1:07:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: SteveH

Kokopelli’s gym is here

http://www.kogym.com/

I can’t find page in question


1,786 posted on 07/10/2013 1:07:12 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: fatima

She doesn’t want to be late for her Brazilian!


1,787 posted on 07/10/2013 1:07:26 PM PDT by CityCenter (Pleading the 5th is just so 1972.)
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To: Donnafrflorida

Donna is she in danger from them?


1,788 posted on 07/10/2013 1:07:34 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: tioga

I think that was a wise move not to bring up drugs. the jury will no doubt come to their own conclusions on why it was not brought up.


1,789 posted on 07/10/2013 1:07:34 PM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: moehoward

>> What no HALF_LIMIT ?

Ah, he’s out there somewhere... that’s probably the homie that dropped the slim-jim.


1,790 posted on 07/10/2013 1:07:36 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

It looks like he was getting so many phone calls and requests about George’s program that he had to do something. ABSOLUTELY is not advertising. Plus, it states that info will be sent AFTER the trial. Oy, Debra, how hard is it to make that decision???


1,791 posted on 07/10/2013 1:07:57 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: machogirl; All

It’s on the site. Wonder who hacked it? DOJ?

It shouldn’t be rebuttal material regardless.


1,792 posted on 07/10/2013 1:08:01 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: CityCenter

TMI LOL


1,793 posted on 07/10/2013 1:08:07 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: MHGinTN

A couple weeks.


1,794 posted on 07/10/2013 1:08:08 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Mouton
"MOM watching the crash dummy pros was laughing over his laying the on the floor demonstrating 90 degree angles with a firearm."

Noticed this too!

Maybe state should replay the tapes after this is all over. When it gets to Guy, wonder if he knows who MOM is laughing about.

1,795 posted on 07/10/2013 1:08:48 PM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: Uncle Chip

How close did he live to Brandi?


1,796 posted on 07/10/2013 1:08:57 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: machogirl

He should claim that a 7 year-old broke into the site and probably posted the ad


1,797 posted on 07/10/2013 1:09:23 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: SteveH

http://www.kogym.com/zimmerman.htm

I found it under the “Events” tab.


1,798 posted on 07/10/2013 1:09:28 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: CityCenter
She doesn’t want to be late for her Brazilian!

I didn't realize she had a Lawn Boy?

1,799 posted on 07/10/2013 1:09:35 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: the-gooroo
Did defense put on evidence of drugs in Trayvon’s system? Sorry, but haven’t seen anything about that issue but maybe I missed it.

Yes and No.

The Defense managed (God knows how) to get the Judge to allow the Toxicology Report. HOWEVER, once they got it on record, and made the Jury aware that there was a TOX report showing THC levels, they dropped it.

This way the Jury is left to PONDER how MUCH he was under the influence of drugs.

Being left to wonder is much more productive for the Defense because the argument over whether the exact amount Trayvon had in his system COULD have influenced his behavior (and the dozens of witnesses that would be required to debate each side of that argument) would prove nothing.

I don't think Trayvon was 'high' during this event. I think he planned to get high before sitting down to watch the game. I don't think the levels shown on the Tox report are high enough to be of any concern.

So, the Jury not knowing means they can make their own assumption. Maybe that's not 'fair', but it is 'smart'.

1,800 posted on 07/10/2013 1:09:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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