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Day 22 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 10, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/10/2013 5:15:07 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 10th, is DAY #22 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday began with a boom as defense expert witness, world renowned Dr Vincent Di Maio took to the stand to validate the forensic evidence supporting George Zimmerman’s version of the encounter with Trayvon Martin. However, the day ended with an even bigger THUNDERCLAP in an epic 10pm showdown as Don West took on both the State prosecutors and trial Judge Nelson after the jury was released. Ending with Judge Nelson, turning her back and walking out of court. Unreal. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

The late night argument, not by the State, but by Judge Nelson herself, regarding phone evidence authentication, is so weak and insufferably devoid of legal analysis it is absurd on its face. Then again, this is the same judge who said a few days ago, flippantly in open court, that evidence should be “shredded” (Dr. Bao notes) after use. D’oh

Essentially Nelson argued that the phone records (texts and pics from Trayvon) cannot be authenticated to have originated by the specific personage of Trayvon Martin (despite two security codes) because anyone could have sent them. Whiskey*Tango*Foxtrot !!

How can an email be used in a sex offender case? How can phone records be used in RICO cases? How can GPS evidence be used in Insurance Cases? How are photographs taken by perps used against them? Think about it.

You can’t argue that evidence cannot be admitted because someone else might have made the actual phone call; Someone else might have physically sent the email; Someone else actually accessed the website; Someone else might have been the driver of the car; Or, someone else could possibly have been behind the viewing lens of the camera etc.

No, that argument does not mean you can arbitrarily exclude evidence. And this was the basis for her argument (watch the video).

Sure, that’s an argument which can be presented to the jury by the other side, as a counter point to create doubt with the jury, but it can’t be a reasonable consideration for total evidence exclusion. Then again, this is Judge Nelson – who in multiple prior cases has a high historical propensity of being overruled by the 5th District Court of Appeals.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrapped up with a community/LEO preparation meeting yesterday.


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Point made — I’ll move on


1,341 posted on 07/10/2013 11:30:10 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: All
Wonder if this is the last witness.

Anyone want to guess how long the jury will take to deliberate?

1,342 posted on 07/10/2013 11:30:17 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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1,343 posted on 07/10/2013 11:30:22 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: denydenydeny

Her badgering of the defendant put pressure on him to respond prematurely. Additionally, she disallowed the legal advice from GZ lawyer and the opportunity for counsel.


1,344 posted on 07/10/2013 11:30:53 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Fawn

Anyone want to guess how long the jury will take to deliberate?


Two hours. To make it look good.


1,345 posted on 07/10/2013 11:31:22 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Whaddya mean? She looks like a movie star!

Chris Farley

Chris was vastly more attractive.

1,346 posted on 07/10/2013 11:31:36 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Toespi

I missed all that. Did GZ then say he would testify?

This judge goes from bad to worse every day.


1,347 posted on 07/10/2013 11:32:10 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: AppyPappy

You are right. Many in Fla. are armed. Particularly in Sanford. It is a rough and tumble town. I am about 40 mins away from Sanford but not in a major city.


1,348 posted on 07/10/2013 11:32:11 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: The_Victor

Right...even as a male stripper with Patrick Swayze!


1,349 posted on 07/10/2013 11:32:16 AM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: Jim Noble

he is doing everything she can to put the burden on the jury
They ARE the triers of fact.


Agree.

With that said to me the cell phone records are relevant facts/inputs for them to consider and make an end judgement on.

The prosecution can debate them , but to not let the jury know about them is inexcusable .


1,350 posted on 07/10/2013 11:33:34 AM PDT by patriotspride
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The defense hasn’t used the “exception” objection?
I liked it when Paul Newman used it in THE VERDICT.


1,351 posted on 07/10/2013 11:34:06 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Uncle Chip

IF West responds, in any legal way, to the news about the DOJ’s involvement, or any Federal Agency, in this case, I believe it will be a huge mistake.

We have to keep in mind that this regime are masters of distraction, IF West takes a legal action it could close down this travesty of a trial and delay it into perpetuity.

This ‘revelation’ could be a last ditch effort on the behalf of Holder and ‘friends’ to subvert this trial.

As usual, just my opinion.


1,352 posted on 07/10/2013 11:34:08 AM PDT by RetSignman (Immigration border protection is America's version of the Maginot Line)
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To: Fawn
Anyone want to guess how long the jury will take to deliberate?

I'll play - Since I have predicted a hung jury I gotta go with 4 days.

1,353 posted on 07/10/2013 11:34:12 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

He was not sure what to say when the judge was pressing him. DW was objecting, she was about screaming overruled several times. She demanded an answer, GZ muttered something about end of the day......


1,354 posted on 07/10/2013 11:34:17 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: sheikdetailfeather

If you have to bus people in, that’s not good news for your riot. Riots work best in large urban areas with tight gun laws.


1,355 posted on 07/10/2013 11:34:48 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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Is this the first time you have been cross examined by a jerk?????


1,356 posted on 07/10/2013 11:35:32 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: don-o

I agree....I was thinking they might hang on until Monday...just to avoid friday/saturday riots....


1,357 posted on 07/10/2013 11:35:52 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: RetSignman
Interesting take nevertheless. You are correct. Nothing is ever as it seems with this bunch.

Thanks.

1,358 posted on 07/10/2013 11:36:06 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: Toespi

Wow, another round of fireworks I had to miss.
Thank you for the overview.

This Guy is so smarmy it’s almost comical. I think he’s bought into the idea he ‘sounds’ like Kevin Costner. He’s a cocky a**.


1,359 posted on 07/10/2013 11:36:23 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: don-o

I’ve been on many juries. First, the time a jury spends depends on how lengthy the instructions are to the jury. But I think the jury will be done in 1 1/2 days max.


1,360 posted on 07/10/2013 11:36:28 AM PDT by HopeSprings
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