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To: kabumpo
Well, I do think the response was appropriate, and I find it very disturbing that there are any members of FR excusing falling asleep in church.

I am reminded of this:

Matt 26
36 Then Jesus went with them to a place called Gethsemane, and he said to his disciples, “Sit here, while I go over there and pray.” 37 And taking with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, he began to be sorrowful and troubled. 38 Then he said to them, “My soul is very sorrowful, even to death; remain here, and watch[d] with me.” 39 And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.” 40 And he came to the disciples and found them sleeping. And he said to Peter, “So, could you not watch with me one hour? 41 Watch and pray that you may not enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.” 42 Again, for the second time, he went away and prayed, “My Father, if this cannot pass unless I drink it, your will be done.” 43 And again he came and found them sleeping, for their eyes were heavy. 44 So, leaving them again, he went away and prayed for the third time, saying the same words again. 45 Then he came to the disciples and said to them, “Sleep and take your rest later on.[e] See, the hour is at hand, and the Son of Man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. 46 Rise, let us be going; see, my betrayer is at hand.”

112 posted on 07/06/2013 3:30:11 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

And I am reminded of His turning over the tables of the moneylenders in the temple.


113 posted on 07/06/2013 3:38:34 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: OneWingedShark

I am also reminded of the teachings of Gurdjieff, who described his mission as one of getting mankind to *wake up*. What better illustratration of that principle could there be than this incident.


117 posted on 07/06/2013 3:53:34 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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