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To: exDemMom; rickmichaels
That's the disinformation campaign. And it's pretty good at what it does.

People became ill when they used milk from cows kept in unsanitary conditions in cities. Pasteurization was a lot cheaper than cleaning up filthy dairies. Pasteurization and homogenization also gives milk a long shelf life so it can be shipped from dairy conglomerates to stores. Control of food is everything to government.

Pasteurization also alters the chemical structure, makes fats rancid, destroys nutrients and results in the formation of free radicals in the body.

You can buy into the fear tactics and believe that you need government to be your Mommy.

You have a nice, safe day.

39 posted on 06/23/2013 11:45:38 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW
That's the disinformation campaign. And it's pretty good at what it does.

To be fair, very few things are purely evil just like most people are not pure evil.

There are some good things about our current food system, including pasteurization.

“Pasteurization also alters the chemical structure, makes fats rancid, destroys nutrients and results in the formation of free radicals in the body.”

I would have to question the above points. Rancid (besides being a current punk rock band) refers to the oxygenation of fats and was a problem in early pasteurization techniques but improved high temp, lower times periods helped reduce this problem. It may destroy some nutrients but will also preserve some nutrients. Personally I have never been comfortable with the free radical concept. The body is an amazing creation and some MAY be affected by this but for example, not ALL smokers get cancer and in fact some smoking may be beneficial for some.

From the comments here this is a very emotional issue and this is a complex issue because God made us unique and complex. But freedom of choice is the overriding issue and along with freedom comes responsibility.

46 posted on 06/23/2013 12:15:44 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: DJ MacWoW
That's the disinformation campaign. And it's pretty good at what it does.

People became ill when they used milk from cows kept in unsanitary conditions in cities. Pasteurization was a lot cheaper than cleaning up filthy dairies. Pasteurization and homogenization also gives milk a long shelf life so it can be shipped from dairy conglomerates to stores. Control of food is everything to government.

I don't know about any "disinformation campaign." There is scientific evidence, and there is pseudoscientific quackery. I'm firmly on the side of science. Most of the reasons advanced for drinking raw milk fall right into the pseudoscience category.

I am unaware of any ranch or dairy where cows are kept in pristine, sterile conditions. The only way I can think of to keep cows in a pathogen-free environment would be to keep them indoors in a building where all of their wastes are continually removed, their food is sterilized, their water is filtered, and the building is sanitized frequently. I do not know of any dairy operation that keeps cows like that--most of them let their cows outdoors, where they are grazing in the same pasture that they use as a bathroom. And where they come into contact with wild animals who also use the pasture as a bathroom. Despite your romantic notions, there is nothing sanitary about cows. I grew up on a ranch--I know very well just how dirty farm animals are.

FYI, food safety standards cover just about every aspect of foods that are sold for human consumption, from how they are grown and harvested, to storage conditions at the store. This isn't because the government is "controlling" the food supply. The government does this because when food safety is not regulated--as is the situation in China--people come up with a variety of imaginative ways to adulterate the food, and the foods are often microbially contaminated. This was the situation in the US in our early history; it is the situation now in countries where they don't regulate food safety. The regulation of food safety is not to control you--it is to prevent the unscrupulous from selling you food that is unsafe to eat. It's no different than other product safety regulations.

Pasteurization also alters the chemical structure, makes fats rancid, destroys nutrients and results in the formation of free radicals in the body.

Do you ever eat cooked food? Have you ever mixed together different foods? Have you ever frozen food? Since there is almost nothing you can do to food in the process of preparing or eating it that *does not* alter the chemical structure, pointing out that chemical structures may be altered during pasteurization is hardly a valid argument against the process.

You can buy into the fear tactics and believe that you need government to be your Mommy.

The purpose of government is to protect citizens from all threats, foreign and domestic. This is a function of government that I fully support.

Do not misinterpret what I am doing here. I actually do not care whether you choose to drink filthy milk. What I care about, a lot, is the truth. Using untruths to justify the decision to drink raw milk is what I am trying to counter here. If you were to say something like, "Yes, I understand that I risk a life-threatening illness every time I drink raw milk, but I like the taste," I would have nothing to say. I fully support your right to make unhealthy choices, as long as you are fully informed.

57 posted on 06/25/2013 4:30:24 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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